Low testosterone since iv started trt

[Majd]

hey guys would love some insight conserning my situation am 20y old iv started trt 14 weeks ago and my testosterone levels dropped from 300~ to 200~ even tho am on 200mg a week split every 3.5 days tho i did get bigger/ more libido ect and the lab test couldn't be wrong i tested twice and my testosterone is pharma grade and since i come from a 3rd tier country doctor just said to stop and live with low levels
ps: am born around the 6 months mark if that matters
and thank you

 

[Systemlord]

hey guys would love some insight conserning my situation am 20y old iv started trt 14 weeks ago and my testosterone levels dropped from 300~ to 200~ even tho am on 200mg a week split every 3.5 days

SHBG influences Total T, so lower levels of SHBG will mean you'll have lower Total T. A guy with high SHBG will have a higher Total T, and if SHBG is high enough, Total T sometimes above the normal range on an average TRT dose.

since i come from a 3rd tier country doctor just said to stop and live with low levels

Perhaps you can suggest to your doctor to take a pill to artificially lower his testosterone levels and he can live with low testosterone and see his reaction. Maybe people should just live with cancer, except it and leave it alone [sarcastic].

I hope this doctor isn't currently managing your care any longer.

 

[Majd]

SHBG influences Total T, so lower levels of SHBG will mean you'll have lower Total T. A guy with high SHBG will have a higher Total T, and if SHBG is high enough, Total T sometimes above the normal range on an average TRT dose.


Perhaps you can suggest to your doctor to take a pill to drop his testosterone levels low and he can live with lowered testosterone and see his reaction. I hope this doctor isn't currently managing your care any longer.

so i need to check for shbg/ anything else lee ? as for the doctor he basically said my body isn’t absorbing testosterone or like it’s pointless for me to do trt could that be true

 

[Systemlord]

so i need to check for shbg/ anything else lee ? as for the doctor he basically said my body isn’t absorbing testosterone or like it’s pointless for me to do trt could that be true

SHBG is the only test you require. I wonder if you're injecting the correct amount of Test. If you are, increasing the dosage is the next logical step, not living with low testosterone just because you don't get good levels on an above average dose.

Let's say you did have your SHBG in the single digits, you don't need testosterone on the higher end and you could get away with testosterone in the mid to bottom end and still have adequate Free T.

 

[Majd]

SHBG is the only test you require. I wonder if you're injecting the correct amount of Test. If you are, increasing the dosage is the next logical step, not living with low testosterone just because you don't get good levels on an above average dose.

yup am injecting the correct amount as for the dosage 100mg every 3.5 days its bayer and pharma grade weird thing is i increase the dosage but my levels didn’t move even went down a bit

 

[Systemlord]

yup am injecting the correct amount as for the dosage 100mg every 3.5 days its bayer and pharma grade weird thing is i increase the dosage but my levels didn’t move even went down a bit

You're an outlier then, seen it before where men don't get good levels on normal doses possibly due to absorption issues.

 

[Phil Goodman]

yup am injecting the correct amount as for the dosage 100mg every 3.5 days its bayer and pharma grade weird thing is i increase the dosage but my levels didn’t move even went down a bit

Your levels are extremely low even at a high dose.

You increased your dose and they went down even further.


I’d say the most likely scenario is that you are getting bunk stuff. Even if you are an extremely rare outlier, increasing the dose should never result in lower levels. Try a different provider with a different brand of test and see if your results improve.

 

[Majd]

You're an outlier then, seen it before where men don't get good levels on normal doses possibly due to absorption issues.

its really bugging me since i really feel tired and low energy all time even tho am in my youth and as for absorption is there anything i could do ?

 

[Majd]

Your levels are extremely low even at a high dose.

You increased your dose and they went down even further.


I’d say the most likely scenario is that you are getting bunk stuff. Even if you are an extremely rare outlier, increasing the dose should never result in lower levels. Try a different provider with a different brand of test and see if your results improve.

thats the thing i switched brands too and they are both pharmaceutical and i have someone taking the same vial and hes been good even tho i might be a super low responder my levels shouldn’t drop that much between 19-20

 

[Phil Goodman]

thats the thing i switched brands too and they are both pharmaceutical and i have someone taking the same vial and hes been good even tho i might be a super low responder my levels shouldn’t drop that much between 19-20

Not sure what to tell you then. I’ve heard of people having high levels on high doses while not having symptom resolution but never heard of someone taking such high doses and keeping such low levels. If you’re injecting it into your body then your levels should go up. Not sure what could explain that if you’re actually administering the amount you think you are. Maybe try cream and see if it changes anything.

 

[Majd]

Not sure what to tell you then. I’ve heard of people having high levels on high doses while not having symptom resolution but never heard of someone taking such high doses and keeping such low levels. If you’re injecting it into your body then your levels should go up. Not sure what could explain that if you’re actually administering the amount you think you are. Maybe try cream and see if it changes anything.

yes am having intra muscular injections and using the right dose it been like this for 14 weeks never missed a shot and tested twice during peak and before an injection with the same results almost its like my body isn’t processing it and thank you for ur time

 

[Phil Goodman]

yes am having intra muscular injections and using the right dose it been like this for 14 weeks never missed a shot and tested twice during peak and before an injection with the same results almost its like my body isn’t processing it and thank you for ur time

Even if your body isn’t processing it the substance should still be in your blood, correct? What exactly do you think is happening to the testosterone that goes into your body? If you tested twice at peak and once at trough with the same levels then where is it going? That is what made me lean towards you using a bunk product. Also, how did you acquire two different vials and test within a 14 week window? The most logical thing is that you aren’t getting a fully dosed product. Have you sent the product to a lab for testing?

 

[Majd]

Even if your body isn’t processing it the substance should still be in your blood, correct? What exactly do you think is happening to the testosterone that goes into your body? If you tested twice at peak and once at trough with the same levels then where is it going? That is what made me lean towards you using a bunk product. Also, how did you acquire two different vials and test within a 14 week window? The most logical thing is that you aren’t getting a fully dosed product. Have you sent the product to a lab for testing?

in my knowledge my total testosterone should at least be higher as for how i was able my family owns a pharma so i was able to get a vial for another brand and it would make sens on how my levels dropped if the production is super under dosed however i doubt since its from germany (bayer test e ) and test is relatively cheap
as for a lab test ill try to get one