Lipids / Iron / Ferritin Labs

[brookseth]

Attached are my current bloods.
I’m taking 140mg Test E (split into 2 shots biweekly) - 750iu HCG (also split into 2) - and 30mg Anavar Daily. Also 2mg Tesamorelin 5x days a week

Should I be concerned about the things out of range? I think my HDL was near the top of the range before taking the Anavar - only been on it for about 2-3 weeks.

Also I just can’t seem to get my ferritin up - I’ve even tried the cycle of taking iron every 6 hours for 4-5 days. Still hovers in the same area

 

[brookseth]

For comparison - these were from 8/25 - before taking Anavar or Tesa

 

[Systemlord]

If the HCT slightly over the range bothers you, go to a lab company with a 51 or 52% cutoff. Go live at elevations above 3000 feet and you’ll get the similar HCT levels when not on TRT.

Low-grade inflammation is enough to disrupt iron metabolism.

 

[brookseth]

If the HCT slightly over the range bothers you, go to a lab company with a 51 or 52% cutoff. Go live at elevations above 3000 feet and you’ll get the similar HCT levels when not on TRT.

Low-grade inflammation is enough to disrupt iron metabolism.

HCT I’m not concerned about at all. Mostly the cholesterol

 

[Systemlord]

HCT I’m not concerned about at all. Mostly the cholesterol

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but high cholesterol is healthy as long as your metabolic health is good. High cholesterol does not cause heart disease!

skip to index 13:15

 

[Jim Marlowe]

I understand many posters are concerned about low Ferritin.
Is there a link to a post on here that explains that rationale? Because to me, a ferritin of 58 is great. The Ray Peat folks, Ivor Cummins, Dr. Eugene Weinberg, and Mercola all concur that high ferritin is indicative of serious issues. Anything over 300 and something is going on. Over 1,000 and cancer risk goes through the roof.

Not an issue here with OP I realize, but the concern when ferritin is low and Hemoglobin is low (very low at first, but then not so low?- Anemia of Chronic Disease | Iron Disorders Institute) then supplementing iron is the wrong thing to do.

 

[Systemlord]

Is there a link to a post on here that explains that rationale?

There is a concern when ferritin is low when they’re unexplained symptoms, that cannot be explained through more comprehensive testing. If the symptoms fit the bill of iron deficiency only then is there a concern.

Iron deficiency without anemia – a clinical challenge

One should always consider iron deficiency (without anemia) as the cause of persisting, unexplained unspecific, often severe, symptoms, regardless of the primary underlying disease. The symptoms of iron deficiency may arise from the metabolic systems ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Ferritin (<30 μg/L) is most sensitive and specific indicator of iron deficiency, although its pitfalls need to be taken into consideration. However, the ferritin concentration may be near to normal, while iron staining of a bone marrow aspiration sample is devoid of iron. Furthermore, in determining the iron status, it is essential not to rely only on results of a single test but to consider the whole picture.

The question of which ferritin concentration signifies clinically symptomatic iron deficiency has been raised 5, 6. Patients with true iron deficiency anemia on the basis of negative bone marrow iron staining may have a serum ferritin concentration close to 50 μg/L 7. Patients with the restless leg syndrome should be considered iron deficient when their ferritin concentration is <75 μg/L 8. Furthermore, patients with negative bone marrow iron stores have been shown to present with serum ferritin levels of close to 100 μg/L.

Because to me, a ferritin of 58 is great.

Not to me, I feel like dogsh** with ferritin below 80.

 

[Jim Marlowe]

There is a concern when ferritin is low when they’re unexplained symptoms, that cannot be explained through more comprehensive testing. If the symptoms fit the bill of iron deficiency only then is there a concern.

Iron deficiency without anemia – a clinical challenge

One should always consider iron deficiency (without anemia) as the cause of persisting, unexplained unspecific, often severe, symptoms, regardless of the primary underlying disease. The symptoms of iron deficiency may arise from the metabolic systems ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Not to me, I feel like dogsh** with ferritin below 80.

Thank you, Systemlord. My ferritin was 400 15 months ago. It's under 30 now, and I feel much better.

 

[Systemlord]

Thank you, Systemlord. My ferritin was 400 15 months ago. It's under 30 now, and I feel much better.

Let’s hope that continues to be the case.

 

[Jim Marlowe]

I realize it is a view not universally shared, but here is Morley Robbins about ferritin:

"My take on reflecting upon my conversation with Dr. Kell, as well as after reading this stunner of an article:

• Ferritin does not belong in the serum, it should only be found inside the cell where it does its work to support the ongoing need for cellular iron proteins and iron-sulfur clusters.
• When ferritin does show up in the serum, it is a sign of pathophysiology, not a sign of “iron vitality!” This is a complete reversal of what we have been trained to believe."

Iron Toxicity Post #55: Ferritin is NOTHING, Hemosiderin is EVERYTHING! - The Root Cause Protocol

Ferritin in the serum is a sign of tissue pathophysiology. Without the ceruloplasmin ferroxidase enzyme, iron doesn't load properly into ferritin. So it gets damaged and takes on the properties of hemosiderin where iron is stored and doesn't come out.

therootcauseprotocol.com

 

[USMC]

I know this is going to be hard to believe, but high cholesterol is healthy as long as your metabolic health is good. High cholesterol does not cause heart disease!

skip to index 13:15

Great video!