Lab thoughts? test is >1500!

masfield

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i'm talking to defy in a bit but i thought i'd get the folks here to weigh in as well. below are my latest labs and the defy protocol i've been using. testosterone is off-the-charts high. estradiol is high too. i feel pretty good these days but continue to have a problem with delayed orgasm bordering on anorgasmia. i'm also exhausted most of the time but i figure that's due to this disease i have, chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy, cidp, which nelson has too.
(one other lab test of note: ldl cholesterol is at 142, where the high range is given at 99.
i take nandrolone for a muscle-wasting disease.

thoughts, anyone?

testosterone free. 6.6 - 18.1 range. 34.4
testosterone total. 264 - 916 range. >1500
estradiol: 8 - 35 range. 44
shbg. 19.3 - 76.4 range. 32.4
prolactin. 4 - 15.2 range. 10
dhea. 48.9 - 344.2 range. 149.1

0.30 cc Nandrolone Decanoate (200mg/ml) ==> 60 mg nandrolone 2x/week,
0.30 cc Test. Cypionate (200 mg/ml) ==> 60 mg 2x/week
 
Your numbers don't look too bad, I think the only adjustment you need is by lower your dose some. But I've never used Nandrolone Decanoate, so I know very little about it.
 
thanks, vince. defy said that the test levels are probably a spike and not to worry about em. same w/ estradiol. said to keep using the same protocol. i've been having some testicular ache, so they want me to do hcg at 250 twice a week and see if that solves the problem. also said prolactin was high enough that i could try cabergoline for my orgasm problems.
 
When prolactin gets too high can kill your libido, but if it gets too low can also kill your libido. Cabergoline has a very long half-life of around 60 hours.
 
I would either lower the dosage a little or switch to an EOD protocol, lowering the dosage and injecting smaller more frequent doses is a sure way to bring down estrogen while keeping testosterone elevated.
 
systemlord: thanks for the suggestion.
joe: yup, i do believe cab is in my future.

vince: my libido is very good. as to cab -- do you know if you can take it on an as-needed basis -- ie, at some point before sex? -- and if so, how long before sex? and ... what is the significance of the long half life? that the hopefully orgasm-stimulating effects of the drug can last that long?
 
Your Estrogen is way too high, given your SHBG. See how very high your Free T is? Probably guarantee that your Free E is likewise very high. Your E2 should possibly be closer or just under the value for your SHBG. You should if it's affordable for you add a second E test called "Estradiol, Free" in all your labs, this because your SHBG is low.
 

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