banshek7
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So to give you the basic information fast, I started trt around a year ago at 100mg per week. My E2 quickly went up and the physicians assistant refused to help me because it was outside of his realm of experience, in fact I had to force him to test my E2 as he believed the shots were unable to convert to estradiol. The elevated level was 66pg/ml, 1 month ago I tested at 99pg/ml and my breast are burning, I can hardly walk around and I feel bad, really bad.
2 weeks ago I switched to the gel due to an allergic reaction to the shot, and things are even worse, my nipples are burning, the fatigue has increased, everything is worse.
Today I finally got to see the endocrinologist they sent me to and it was one of the most mortifying experiences of my life, she yelled at me and my mother for an entire hour, said 170-200ng/dl total T was no reason to start TRT, told me that 100mg per week was some kind of physiological lethal dose of medicine and there is no way she is giving me an aromatase inhibitor because it will rapidly give me osteoporosis and lead to a chain of events that will inevitably lead to my death.
She also said there is no way that the super high estradiol is A.) making me fat B.) giving me fatigue or C.) making me retain fluid and that all of my symptoms were basically from me being mentally insane and that I should seek out mental medicine
She also told me that if she takes away the testosterone, my estrogen will rapidly decrease, when I've heard the exact opposite from every other source I've looked at, if that is true, why do men NEED aromatase inhibitors when they go off cycle? She said there is no biological way that stopping testosterone will raise my estrogen and that I basically need to man up and wait 3-4 years for my testicles to "maybe" start functioning.
I'm very manic and wrote this to the health clinic I go to, can anyone give me advice, I feel like I'm heading towards a nervous meltdown.
"[FONT="]I just got back from that endocrinologist and I'm in a complete mania spell from that experience. I'm not mad or upset with her, she said a lot of valid things and a lot of things I don't agree with. You both are telling me two completely different things, and to make matters worse, neither one of you are aligned with the standard of care for TRT that the entire rest of the country follows. You cannot find me a hormone clinic that gives testosterone without an aromatase inhibitor, or at least checks within two weeks the E2 value and then gives the inhibitor. You told me to my face this therapy was medically necessary, and legally fought with my insurance company proving this was medically necessary, and shes telling me you had me on some kind of physiologically lethal dose at 100mg per week and I shouldn't even be on testosterone at all. I literally do not know what to think right now, she told me to continue taking the gel for 2 months, then she wants to retest my values and if they are still elevated, take me off of TRT with no reboot protocol and no aromatase inhibitor. Every doctor I have ever talked to, every patient, every person in this world that has taken either testosterone or steroids knows that if you suddenly stop taking them, your estrogen is going to go through the roof, mind you, you guys have me at 5x the normal level of estradiol this entire year. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Can you even begin to explain to me how every single hormone clinic gives an AI with treatment, and both of you are telling me this is impossible. If you want, I would be more than happy to link you to several hundred medical examples. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Also, she's telling me the 100mg per week shot was an extremely high dose, I can find hundreds of doctors and 1000's of patients that I'm connected to, famous doctors that run forums and have books out, that the standard TRT dose IS 100mg - 200mg, most of the time taken along side HCG injections and an aromatase inhibitor. [/FONT]
[FONT="]I'm not against everything she said, right now I'm am more extremely upset because you guys are putting me in a position of harm. If you take of me off the the therapy with no protocol in place to safe guard me, I will get a lawyer and have my friend, the CEO of a large health clinic and many others testify as to how wrong this all is. If neither of you know how harmful a man being at 100pg/ml of E2 is, I suggest you pick up some books and get reading. [/FONT]
[FONT="]"High estrogen levels in men contribute to prostate cancer and heart disease as well as gynecomastia ( enlarged breasts)." [/FONT]
[FONT="]My breast have been burning for an entire year now."
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I apologize for the rant, I just really feel scared about my future right now and I can't turn to my doctors for help because they just shut me up, tell me I'm wrong about everything and don't listen to me. [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
2 weeks ago I switched to the gel due to an allergic reaction to the shot, and things are even worse, my nipples are burning, the fatigue has increased, everything is worse.
Today I finally got to see the endocrinologist they sent me to and it was one of the most mortifying experiences of my life, she yelled at me and my mother for an entire hour, said 170-200ng/dl total T was no reason to start TRT, told me that 100mg per week was some kind of physiological lethal dose of medicine and there is no way she is giving me an aromatase inhibitor because it will rapidly give me osteoporosis and lead to a chain of events that will inevitably lead to my death.
She also said there is no way that the super high estradiol is A.) making me fat B.) giving me fatigue or C.) making me retain fluid and that all of my symptoms were basically from me being mentally insane and that I should seek out mental medicine
She also told me that if she takes away the testosterone, my estrogen will rapidly decrease, when I've heard the exact opposite from every other source I've looked at, if that is true, why do men NEED aromatase inhibitors when they go off cycle? She said there is no biological way that stopping testosterone will raise my estrogen and that I basically need to man up and wait 3-4 years for my testicles to "maybe" start functioning.
I'm very manic and wrote this to the health clinic I go to, can anyone give me advice, I feel like I'm heading towards a nervous meltdown.
"[FONT="]I just got back from that endocrinologist and I'm in a complete mania spell from that experience. I'm not mad or upset with her, she said a lot of valid things and a lot of things I don't agree with. You both are telling me two completely different things, and to make matters worse, neither one of you are aligned with the standard of care for TRT that the entire rest of the country follows. You cannot find me a hormone clinic that gives testosterone without an aromatase inhibitor, or at least checks within two weeks the E2 value and then gives the inhibitor. You told me to my face this therapy was medically necessary, and legally fought with my insurance company proving this was medically necessary, and shes telling me you had me on some kind of physiologically lethal dose at 100mg per week and I shouldn't even be on testosterone at all. I literally do not know what to think right now, she told me to continue taking the gel for 2 months, then she wants to retest my values and if they are still elevated, take me off of TRT with no reboot protocol and no aromatase inhibitor. Every doctor I have ever talked to, every patient, every person in this world that has taken either testosterone or steroids knows that if you suddenly stop taking them, your estrogen is going to go through the roof, mind you, you guys have me at 5x the normal level of estradiol this entire year. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Can you even begin to explain to me how every single hormone clinic gives an AI with treatment, and both of you are telling me this is impossible. If you want, I would be more than happy to link you to several hundred medical examples. [/FONT]
[FONT="]Also, she's telling me the 100mg per week shot was an extremely high dose, I can find hundreds of doctors and 1000's of patients that I'm connected to, famous doctors that run forums and have books out, that the standard TRT dose IS 100mg - 200mg, most of the time taken along side HCG injections and an aromatase inhibitor. [/FONT]
[FONT="]I'm not against everything she said, right now I'm am more extremely upset because you guys are putting me in a position of harm. If you take of me off the the therapy with no protocol in place to safe guard me, I will get a lawyer and have my friend, the CEO of a large health clinic and many others testify as to how wrong this all is. If neither of you know how harmful a man being at 100pg/ml of E2 is, I suggest you pick up some books and get reading. [/FONT]
[FONT="]"High estrogen levels in men contribute to prostate cancer and heart disease as well as gynecomastia ( enlarged breasts)." [/FONT]
[FONT="]My breast have been burning for an entire year now."
[/FONT][FONT="]
I apologize for the rant, I just really feel scared about my future right now and I can't turn to my doctors for help because they just shut me up, tell me I'm wrong about everything and don't listen to me. [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT]
