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So guys I thought I’d ask here (admin please remove if not allowed).

I need general medical and health culture; I want information about medicines, food and health in general. Do you have suggestions for ******** groups that I can join to be in constant touch?
 
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So guys I thought I’d ask here (admin please remove if not allowed).

I need general medical and health culture; I want information about medicines, food and health in general. Do you have suggestions for ******** groups that I can join to be in constant touch?
For superior entertainment I hear the TOT Hormone Optimization group is a hoot. Never been there though. Some dude named Danny Bossa or something.
 
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Never tried this one:
https://www.********.com/groups/hormoneoptimization/

No broscience...LOL.

I have heard this one is a real hoot:

When I want to really wind down with some good entertainment:

Criminally underrated song and music video (well ahead of its time):

Very applicable in today's world, Social media, ********, all of it...


You think you're gonna live your life alone
In darkness
And seclusion
Yeah I know
You've been out there
Tried to mix with those animals
And it just left you full of humiliated confusion
So you stagger back home
And wait for nothing
But the solitary refinement of your room spits you back out onto the street
And now you're desperate
And in need of human contact
And then
You meet me
And you whole world changes
Because everything I say is everything you've ever wanted to hear
So you drop all your defenses and you drop all your fears
And you trust me completely
I'm perfect
In every way
Cause I make you feel so strong and so powerful inside
You feel so lucky
But your ego obscures reality
And you never bother to wonder why
Things are going so well
You want to know why?

'Cause I'm a liar
Yeah I'm a liar
I'll tear your mind out
I'll burn your soul
I'll turn you into me
I'll turn you into me
'Cause I'm a liar, a liar
A liar, a liar

I'll hide behind a smile
And understanding eyes
And I'll tell you things that you already know
So you can say
I really identify with you, so much
And all the time that you're needing me
Is just the time that I'm bleeding you
Don't you get it yet?
I'll come to you like an affliction
And I'll leave you like an addiction
You'll never forget me
You want to know why?
'Cause I'm a liar
Yeah I'm a liar
I'll rip your mind out
I'll burn your soul
I'll turn you into me
I'll turn you into me

'Cause I'm a liar, a liar
Liar, liar, liar, liar

I don't know why I feel the need to lie
And cause you so much pain
Maybe it's something inside
Maybe it's something I can't explain
'Cause all I do
Is mess you up and lie to you

I'm a liar
Oh, I am a liar

If you'll give me one more chance
I swear that I will never lie to you again
Because now I see the destructive power of a lie
They're stronger than truth
I can't believe I ever hurt you
I swear
I will never to you lie again, please
Just give me one more chance
I will never lie to you again
I swear
That I will never tell a lie
I will never tell a lie
No, no
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Sucker
Sucker!
Oh, sucker
I am a liar
Yeah, I am a liar
Yeah I like it
I feel good
Oh I am a liar
Yeah
I lie
I lie
I lie
Oh, I lie
Oh I lie
I lie
Yeah
Oh I'm a liar
I lie
Yeah
I like it
I feel good
I'll lie again
And again
I'll lie again and again
And I'll keep lying
I promise
 
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For superior entertainment I hear the TOT Hormone Optimization group is a hoot. Never been there though. Some dude named Danny Bossa or something.
I was listening to him and his crew lately. Despite all the people who take AI's and immediately feel better and have their gyno halted, I was listening with an open mind. He keeps saying the body producing more E2 in response to the additional androgens is perfectly normal because the body tries to keep balance, and I thought this made sense.

Then it occurred to me that aromatization is happening all the time, not just in immediate response to the influx of T. A couple of times I have tested at trough, skipped a dose, and tested again three to five days later. Each time my T was lower the second time and my E2 was higher. Do you have any idea how they try to explain away the fact that you're still aromatizing while excreting? I haven't been able to find them talking about that.
 
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I was listening to him and his crew lately. Despite all the people who take AI's and immediately feel better and have their gyno halted, I was listening with an open mind. He keeps saying the body producing more E2 in response to the additional androgens is perfectly normal because the body tries to keep balance, and I thought this made sense.

Then it occurred to me that aromatization is happening all the time, not just in immediate response to the influx of T. A couple of times I have tested at trough, skipped a dose, and tested again three to five days later. Each time my T was lower the second time and my E2 was higher. Do you have any idea how they try to explain away the fact that you're still aromatizing while excreting? I haven't been able to find them talking about that.
These dudes aren't exactly SMEs in multi-step chemical kinetics and I doubt they've put together transient models for how this would play out (haha). They are doing the best they can I'm sure so I need to be more empathetic. But then I get a little miffed when they claim expertise or charge dudes for a "consult".
 
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