Got new bloods after 2 months of horrible protocol... Help?

[Joe Martin]

Hey guys, So several of you know I got a very bad protocol from my doctor.
1 injection a month for the last two months.
I went and got bloods done independently last tuesday then went and did the ordered bloods for him last thursday.
Now I go see him THIS thursday.
I'm comparing my old results with my independent results and I have a question.

My first lab seems to only reference total testosterone, while my new lab is total and free.
My total seems much higher this lab than last but theres some kind of "flag" on my free testosterone.
Can you guys clear this up for me? What am I looking at exactly?

OLD

NEW.

 

[Vince]

Low SHBG could account for your high Free T. Injecting once a month, you need a new doctor.
Your labs should be taken right before you inject.

 

[Joe Martin]

Yeah this thursday if he doesnt give me weekly injections I'm going to defy, i've already talked to them.
I am just going to have to scrape to afford the 250 a month.


Can you please explain the results though? in comparison to the old ones? I dont understand them.

 

[Vince]

The first one just gives you your total testosterone, the second one gives you your total testosterone and then your free testosterone. Not much in the way of labs.

 

[Joe Martin]

The first one just gives you your total testosterone, the second one gives you your total testosterone and then your free testosterone. Not much in the way of labs.

The lab I just did for him that goes directly to him I believe is just total testosterone again, so will he think that I'm improving because the number is higher?

 

[Vince]

I would assume so. You did increase your testosterone.

 

[Joe Martin]

Bummer.
I'll go ahead and get paperwork started with defy then.

Thanks Vince!

 

[Vince]

Yeah this thursday if he doesnt give me weekly injections I'm going to defy, i've already talked to them.
I am just going to have to scrape to afford the 250 a month.


Can you please explain the results though? in comparison to the old ones? I dont understand them.

I don't think Defy is that expensive, it cost more when you're first starting. Because of two consultations and two labs close together. But after that you only need consultation and labs every 6 months.

 

[CoastWatcher]

I would agree with all of the points Vince addresses. When did you have these labs drawn relative to your injection?

 

[Joe Martin]

I would agree with all of the points Vince addresses. When di you have these labs drawn relative to your injection?

2 weeks after.

 

[CoastWatcher]

2 weeks after.

Just prior to your next injection? What's your SHBG and estradiol/sensitive?

 

[Joe Martin]

not it would be midway. I have them every 4 weeks. So two weeks prior to my next injection.
I have no idea, I think he tested that once in july.

 

[CoastWatcher]

not it would be midway. I have them every 4 weeks. So two weeks prior to my next injection.
I have no idea, I think he tested that once in july.

It's not your fault, but your doctor is hopelessly lost. He has you setting out in a TRT protocol that is going to have you limping along, possibly feeling better, but not bringing you to the point you need to reach in order to really benefit from androgen replacement. He may be a great fellow, but he's ignorant. Defy is an option - after the upfront investment the costs should be manageable.

 

[Joe Martin]

It's not your fault, but your doctor is hopelessly lost. He has you setting out in a TRT protocol that is going to have you limping along, possibly feeling better, but not bringing you to the point you need to reach in order to really benefit from androgen replacement. He may be a great fellow, but he's ignorant. Defy is an option - after the upfront investment the costs should be manageable.

Yeah I'm not educated on any of this stuff I mostly refer to several friends who are on TRT after heavy steroid use. Although I assume my protocol will probably be different because I don't have that background.
Yeah I'm going to call defy again and try to get started asap. My testosterone is up but I still feel like garbage so I hope they can help.
Thanks man.