Frustrated by latest results

[LTChris]

Total Test (384-1197) - 1161
Free Test (8.7-25.1) - 29.4
Estradiol Sensitive (8-35) - 29.7
T4 direct (.82-1.77) .92
T3 free (2.0 - 4.4) 3.3

As I understand it, on paper these numbers are great. I still feel fatigued most days. My libido is down. I don't have a problem getting an erection, but they are not very strong. All around little ambition or passion about anything. I am just not sure what to adjust or if I should try to manipulate my estradiol levels? Or am I completely missing something else. I am just frustrated and concerned if I don't get this going in the right direction it will cost me my job....and/or my marriage.

I do have a consult with defy in 3 weeks.

 

[user_joe]

You didn't mention your protocol. If libido is the concern I'd focus on e2. If it needs to be lower it's surely just a hair. I'd probably try just slightly higher.

 

[johndoesmith]

I'd lower test a bit. That's pretty high, and often, more isn't always better.

 

[madman]

I'd lower test a bit. That's pretty high, and often, more isn't always better.

I agree with JDS! Lowering dose for some is better as ones body may not feel well overall at higher levels.

 

[AntCon]

Maybe you need a more in depth thyroid panel too. Just a suggestion , but couldn't hurt.

 

[LTChris]

I was at 50mg. Test cyp e3.5d
That set total t in the 900's. Free T in lower 20's. E2 at 26.
Current labs at 54mg, i bumped up to see effect on symptoms. I will drop back down.
I had tried 46mg prior to that, un fortunatly i felt the same and wasn't able to get labs done at that level. Thanks for responses.

Other meds:
25mg dhea daily (unchanged)
350iu hcg e3.5d (unchanged)
1.5 gr. Westhyroid daily

 

[Vince]

Your numbers do look great and I like your protocol. Hopefully Defy can give some insight into why you're fatigued.

 

[johndoesmith]

Are these trough?

Fatigue can often be completely unrelated to hormones. For example, I have narcolepsy, so TRT has done nothing for my sleepiness and fatigue.

 

[1Draw]

Could it be the HCG? According to WEB MD, side effects are headaches, tiredness, restlessness are the common ones with swelling in ankles/feet, mental/mood changes i.e. depression are listed as serious side effects.

I too have had good numbers but, just didn't feel right with fatigue, moodiness, etc. I stopped my EOD 250 iu's 3 weeks ago to see if that may have been causing it.

So far, so good so, I'm off the HCG for the time being. When the boys start disappearing, I may try it again. You can always try dropping for a while. There have been other post here where some just never realized any benefits from HCG.

 

[LTChris]

Are these trough?


Fatigue can often be completely unrelated to hormones. For example, I have narcolepsy, so TRT has done nothing for my sleepiness and fatigue.

Yes, trough and fasted

 

[LTChris]

I am leaning towards adjusting HCG. I just read Dr. Crislers book. I am thinking of trying daily HCG injection. Same total weekly dosage. If i do, i will start a new post to update. Thanks everyone