Estradiol and Sexual Performance?

[Mountain Man]

As I read more on this forum, I am learning a lot about the relation between estrogen and sexual performance. I know that too low is a problem, but what about if it's too high? If estrogen is too high, can the dose be adjusted down to lower it?

My concern is that I am looking for that sweet spot where my T levels are enough to feel good, and my sexual performance is consistent. Sex is either unbelievable for my wife and I or, just unbelievable for me. Not sure if my 100 mg cypionate per week is too high-MD and I spoke of lowering it to 90-95mg-or if I have an inconsistent batch of generic cialis.

I guess 2 major questions:

Should I lower the dose a bit? Last bloods estrogen was in range, but near the high end. Bloods are not scheduled for 4 months and I can't afford till then due to insurance.

How inconsistent is generic cialis? Been getting it from an Indian pharmacy. Thinking of using safemeds4all.com next time. Anybody know anything about there quality?

My wife thinks that we may be wearing it out a bit. She's great. She thinks at 62 and 60 years old it could be us. As she says, sex 5-6 times per week might be too much. I tend to disagree as we both want it daily. I do notice that our best sex comes after 3-4 days without, but with drive being high, it's not the easiest thing to do.

Thanks guys. Hope not TMI.

 

[Vince Carter]

Some of us have expressed a perceived difference in effectiveness of Tadalafil from overseas. Ive not had Tadalafil from "big Pharma" to compare it too, I've only used the overseas version and some research chems. Some of that have been able to compare the two sources have said that they need 20mg from overseas to get the same effectiveness of 10mg of the legit Tadalafil. key point from my experience: with Tadalafil I seem to notice it may take up to 8hrs to reach effectiveness. Others have noticed that they experience an effectiveness that is hours after taking it.

 

[DLK]

Mountainman, great to hear at 60 you and your wife are still at it. I'm 50 and still have great sex drive but wonder how much longer i can expect my wife stay interested. As far as the estrogen levels I have adverse effects when its to low or to high, I've found that when i feel the effects of it getting high I'll take an AI and it levels out. I take 80mg of cypionate every fourth day and maybe once every two weeks i end up needing to take .25mg of anastrozone. I've heard of inconsistent meds coming from India but have no personal experience, I take liquid tadalafil from RUI which is a reseach lab and it always works great.

 

[lcvl]

Never had problems with generic Cialis or Viagra. I usually can feel them kicking in in less than 30 mins.

 

[Vince]

If your not having symptoms from high estrogen, I wouldn't worry about it. It seems like most blame their problems on high or low E2. I also buy all my generic Cialis from India and I do enjoy it.
100mg of T is a low dose, personally I wouldn't go lower.
I also enjoy daily sex, when possible.

 

[Mountain Man]

Thanks guys.

Vince - Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if my total T is too high because at 100mg per week I get to around 1100, with in range being 1000 or under.

What would be some symptoms of high estrogen to look for?

DLK: Your wife can stay interested indefinitely, but you have to work on it. We are empty nesters living in a rural part of New Hampshire. Romantic lifestyle, good food, active lifestyle for both of us and we still flirt with each other and teasing is part of our daily ritual. Builds great sexual tension. We look at sex as an activity we do together, kind of like a hobby. Works well for us, and I expect it will be this way for a long time.

Can you give me more info about that research lab?

Vince Carter- Can I ask who you use for your generic cialis?

Great to get good advice on such a touchy subject!

 

[Vince]

Thanks guys.

Vince - Thanks for the info. I'm wondering if my total T is too high because at 100mg per week I get to around 1100, with in range being 1000 or under.

What would be some symptoms of high estrogen to look for?

I use 100mg of T and 500iu of HCG x 2 a week and never had high E2, I know we are all different. Nelson has a good thread on estradiol. Role of Estradiol in Men and Its Management. https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?2309-Role-of-Estradiol-in-Men-and-Its-Management

 

[DLK]

MountainMan, for me when my estrogen gets high I have a kind of pressure headache, my face feels flush and I feel irritable. Your T levels seem great for 100mg a week more importantly its how you feel. You can google RUI products, I found out about them from someone on this site but it's very economical. Thanks for the advice we also still flirt and tease, it's a great build up.

 

[Mountain Man]

Thanks Vince.

DLK, Thank you. I'll check out RUI.

Secret to long term sex with the wife is her staying fit, feeling as beautiful and desirable to you as when you first met. I'm so grateful to have a wife that still excites me. Problem is you have to find ways to excite her!

 

[johndoesmith]

Well, no one is going to be able to answer this without labs really.

You only mentioned "e2 is in range" but no mention of testing assay, or testosterone levels or anything really.

 

[Mountain Man]

Haven't had labs in 2 months, not scheduled till April.

Results 7/6/16:
TESTOSTERONE Range

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]1174[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]375-1000 ng/dl[/TD]

ESTRADIOL

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]70.4[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]20.0-75.0 pg/ml[/TD]

9/28/16:
TESTOSTERONE

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]720[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]375-1000 ng/dl[/TD]

ESTRADIOL

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]71.9[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]20.0-75.0 pg/m[/TD]

I realize this test is not the sensitive one, and results tend to be on the high side. I will ask next visit about that test.

From what I'm reading I do not seem to have symptoms of high estrogen. My MD thought the 1174 was a little high, when cut down it was a little low. He said I could split the difference and dose approx 90-95mg per week or just stay at 100. I've been dosing at around 100 most weeks.

Considering maybe the 50mg every 3.5 days. What's the pros/cons of that? Any benefit of dosing 125mg one week and then 100mg the next?

 

[Vince]

I don't think there is any benefits from dosing 125mg one week and then 100mg the next. Injecting every 3 1/2 days helps keep your levels even, less spike.

 

[Vince Carter]

If you're shooting 100mg/week in one shot and pulling high troughs like this its because your SHBG is normal or high. In this case if that's correct, E3.5D may not benefit you.
In regards to waiting four months til Apr for more tests, that's not in your best interest. You can get the test yourself for $48 @ discountedlabs. It's that important. IMHO.

 

[johndoesmith]

Haven't had labs in 2 months, not scheduled till April.

Results 7/6/16:
TESTOSTERONE Range

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]1174[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]375-1000 ng/dl[/TD]

ESTRADIOL

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]70.4[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]20.0-75.0 pg/ml[/TD]

9/28/16:
TESTOSTERONE

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]720[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]375-1000 ng/dl[/TD]

ESTRADIOL

[TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"][/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]71.9[/TD] [TD="class: tableCell, bgcolor: #ffffff"]20.0-75.0 pg/m[/TD]

I realize this test is not the sensitive one, and results tend to be on the high side. I will ask next visit about that test.

From what I'm reading I do not seem to have symptoms of high estrogen. My MD thought the 1174 was a little high, when cut down it was a little low. He said I could split the difference and dose approx 90-95mg per week or just stay at 100. I've been dosing at around 100 most weeks.

Considering maybe the 50mg every 3.5 days. What's the pros/cons of that? Any benefit of dosing 125mg one week and then 100mg the next?

When were these labs taken relative to injection?

There's no advantage of taking inconsistent doses each week. It's important to stick to a single dose for a minimum of 6 weeks before getting labs, any change in protocol resets the clock on testing, and invalidates the results.

You just haven't provided enough information for us to make any suggestions regarding splitting doses, if you have other results it'd help, but if not, even though it's not your fault the lack of information makes this difficult.