I taked them both for a while but if they are not very effective I rather skip them. I want to reduce my supplements because its already crazy what I spend per month on different supplements. Multivit., B-vit forte, K1, Vit D, Omega 3, Old garlic (Kyolic), Q10, Magnesium, Selenium, ALC, DHEA, Preg, Vit C 1000mg, NAC, Zinc and L-Citrl. Since Im on statins I do need to take Q10, Selelium and K1. If I don´t take multivit I take the rest individually. Man, the drawer is full and my wife thinks I´m obsessed and I think I´m lol