chinese suppliers and prices(low)+sourcing

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like many peptide users, I became tired of huge markups from US based peptide resellers. sites like AAS/UGL labs and similar (NEXAPH – Research Peptides) provide some middle-ground and while a lot of cheaper then your typical peptidesciences - they still are expensive. then i stumbled on PepChat – Home of the Peptide Community - which is mostly a chinese sourcing chat site with sellers like LN. this is about 1/10th of the cost of anything i've seen. I have not ordered anything yet and will soon, but I'm sure a lot of people here will appreciate a cheap alternative.
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I am still very concerned of injecting anything in my body that I really don't know where and how it was made. Call me conservative but so far I have not regretted anything in my 40+ years of experimentation.
this is a valid concern, but in that case you essentially need to avoid all peptide sellers, like PS etc. the only viable sources here would be compounded pharmacies, which barely have anything peptide wise. even when they were allowed to a while ago, 10mg bpc157 did cost 250usd at empower. money most people would not spend
 
Red flag for me is low low prices. Some one else here was unconcerned recently about a peptide that was like $20, I called him out for it, it was like BPC157/10mg and there's just no way that 157/10mg was $20. it's his body but prices too good to be true should be a huge red flag. I'm sticking with PS.

Too I haven't looked at the dates on the COA lately so I'm going to do that as Ive probably dropped 1K on peptides in the last 6 months. I want to think that one's I've looked at in the past have been years old.
 
Red flag for me is low low prices. Some one else here was unconcerned recently about a peptide that was like $20, I called him out for it, it was like BPC157/10mg and there's just no way that 157/10mg was $20. it's his body but prices too good to be true should be a huge red flag. I'm sticking with PS.

Too I haven't looked at the dates on the COA lately so I'm going to do that as Ive probably dropped 1K on peptides in the last 6 months. I want to think that one's I've looked at in the past have been years old.
Virtually all Chinese peptide prices are extremely low, yet in most people's experiences they work very well, so I wouldn't be so sure on the red flag there.
 
I don't have the need to price shop my meds so I've never gone down the rabbit hole of trying to nickle and dime my meds, I prefer a US based company that ships 1-2 days FedEx from Kalifornia. (not a comment if all peptides are sourced from China, or not)
 
I don't have the need to price shop my meds so I've never gone down the rabbit hole of trying to nickle and dime my meds, I prefer a US based company that ships 1-2 days FedEx from Kalifornia. (not a comment if all peptides are sourced from China, or not)
Everyone is free to pay what they want and prefer a short delivery time, but that's a different discussion than the red flag one
 
Red flag for me is low low prices. Some one else here was unconcerned recently about a peptide that was like $20, I called him out for it, it was like BPC157/10mg and there's just no way that 157/10mg was $20. it's his body but prices too good to be true should be a huge red flag. I'm sticking with PS.

Too I haven't looked at the dates on the COA lately so I'm going to do that as Ive probably dropped 1K on peptides in the last 6 months. I want to think that one's I've looked at in the past have been years old.
I can repackage some chinese peptides slap a fancy label on the glass vials and add a 0 to the price + attach a 'COA'. viola. you are a happy customer and my cash is flowing. this is exactly the US sellers business model and they love customers like you
 
like many peptide users, I became tired of huge markups from US based peptide resellers. sites like AAS/UGL labs and similar (NEXAPH – Research Peptides) provide some middle-ground and while a lot of cheaper then your typical peptidesciences - they still are expensive. then i stumbled on PepChat – Home of the Peptide Community - which is mostly a chinese sourcing chat site with sellers like LN. this is about 1/10th of the cost of anything i've seen. I have not ordered anything yet and will soon, but I'm sure a lot of people here will appreciate a cheap alternative.
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like many peptide users, I became tired of huge markups from US based peptide resellers. sites like AAS/UGL labs and similar (NEXAPH – Research Peptides) provide some middle-ground and while a lot of cheaper then your typical peptidesciences - they still are expensive. then i stumbled on PepChat – Home of the Peptide Community - which is mostly a chinese sourcing chat site with sellers like LN. this is about 1/10th of the cost of anything i've seen. I have not ordered anything yet and will soon, but I'm sure a lot of people here will appreciate a cheap alternative.
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Nex is pretty decent. That TG community LOVES to test the products. Especially since Nex reimburses you for the fee from Janoshik labs. I would NOT inject anything I did not test myself. Some of those factories from China do not have websites and only deal in bitcoin ??? Sounds super shady.
 
Nex is pretty decent. That TG community LOVES to test the products. Especially since Nex reimburses you for the fee from Janoshik labs. I would NOT inject anything I did not test myself. Some of those factories from China do not have websites and only deal in bitcoin ??? Sounds super shady.
most of UGL deals in crypto only. TBH there is absolutely no difference between 'peptide sciences' and LNpeptides IMHO other then 10x price differences. both release lab reports and unless you send it to a lab YOURSELF you have absolutely 0 guarantees of any kind. outside of 'reputation'. peptide chat has an active user community and you would think that scammers would be spotted. thats the basis of how all review sites work. if you look at LNpeptides (photo in original link) for ex, there is an active group+'COA's'
friend in put just a huge order in and will see what happens.

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The peptide market has exploded in recent years and is becoming more mainstream. Social media platforms like YouTube, Instagram and others are full of advertisements from peptide suppliers. This is fueling demand and with demand comes competition for business. Some peptides are manufactured in the US and are usually more expensive. The vast majority of peptides are made in China. This is not a bad thing as China manufactures a lot of high-quality products. Much of our pharmaceutical products are manufactured in China. So, to say Chinese products are inferior is incorrect.

All that being said, there are some shady operators selling inferior products. This is true of peptides, supplements and a multitude of other products. Many of the cheap supplements sold on Amazon are pure garbage. One of the best things I have done is to join Consumer Labs website. They test a multitude of products, and you would be surprised how much of the stuff sold has none of the advertised ingredients.

As for peptides, third party lab testing can most definitely be fudged. The labels on research peptides clearly state "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION". This is a license for shady operators to sell inferior, or downright counterfeit products. Who are you going to complain to?

Low pricing is part of Chinese culture, so just because the price is low doesn't necessarily mean the product is bad. It does however mean that a person should be cautious. It may be worth the 175.00 for a third-party test if you are going to buy from that supplier on a regular basis.

Bottom line... there are definitely some suppliers to avoid. To think otherwise is just naive.

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As regulations in the pharmaceutical and biotechnology industries become more stringent globally, Chinese suppliers face increasing pressure to meet international standards. Compliance with Good Manufacturing Practices (GMP) and other regulatory requirements is crucial for suppliers looking to serve global markets.

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I would not dare inject anything from a direct China source without first having it tested by a lab like Janoshik.

Whether PS synthesizes its own peptides or buys in bulk from China, they must surely test every batch or they would have gone out of business a long time ago.
The cost of testing every batch of peptides is built into their pricing, which is part of the reason they are more expensive. Someone selling a peptide for 20.00 when the average is 50.00 is most definitely cause for concern. A caveat to that is if they are buying in such bulk that they are testing a single very large batch.

Investing a couple hundred dollars to validate a product is well worth the expense if you are going to continue to buy from that supplier.
 
all the concerns about china are valid. but I lost trust in US based producers since this
tons of guys reported shitty blood levels on empowers Tcyp. you have constant recalls about FDA drugs as well. overpriced sellers like PS have good reputation no doubt. but if you look at major ugl labs, which operate for years, they have outstanding reputation too and people do run bloodwork, send batches to labs etc all the time. I'm certain there is scammy chinese peptide sellers. every single peptide with few exceptions (if its an fda drug) are 'not for human consumption'. this is a legal loophole to allow sales in the usa. if you want to play safe, you need to wait for fda to do something, which might never happen.
 
The cost of testing every batch of peptides is built into their pricing, which is part of the reason they are more expensive. Someone selling a peptide for 20.00 when the average is 50.00 is most definitely cause for concern. A caveat to that is if they are buying in such bulk that they are testing a single very large batch.

Investing a couple hundred dollars to validate a product is well worth the expense if you are going to continue to buy from that supplier.
this is very minor. yes, they send 1 batch for testing to Jano or somewhere, out of 1000? that is a 300usd test. do some math. the cost is US operations, income taxes, sales taxes, CC fees, running a site, advertising and a big markup.
 
all the concerns about china are valid. but I lost trust in US based producers since this
tons of guys reported shitty blood levels on empowers Tcyp. you have constant recalls about FDA drugs as well. overpriced sellers like PS have good reputation no doubt. but if you look at major ugl labs, which operate for years, they have outstanding reputation too and people do run bloodwork, send batches to labs etc all the time. I'm certain there is scammy chinese peptide sellers. every single peptide with few exceptions (if its an fda drug) are 'not for human consumption'. this is a legal loophole to allow sales in the usa. if you want to play safe, you need to wait for fda to do something, which might never happen.
We most definitely do NOT want the FDA involved. That would effectively shut down the supply and end up giving big pharma control.
 

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