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Looking for advice on what to try next to get my labs in order. I've used E2 ECLIA and Sensitive testings (last one both out of interest) so I'm posting both with a note if it's calculated or measured. All labs are Labcorp and taken 2018 with corresponding ranges.
I'm having hard time understanding how 1.43mg decrease in T injections lowered the Total T (and Free in correlation) by 30% while SHBG stayed the same? The E levels could be explained by HCG, right?
My end goal would be to find a T + HCG protocol that keeps the E levels within ranges without the need of AI, even with lower than ideal T levels. What I've thought as the next steps would be to do EOD 20mg T injections, get new set of tests and if E has decreased bring the HCG back with very small doses at first. Does this make sense?
Baseline before starting TRT
Test Tot 360-370
Test Free 6-7
SHBG 30-38
E2 (ECLIA, measured) 14-18
E2 (Sensitive, calc) 12-15
E Tot 116 (range 40-115) (High)
E1 57 (range 12-72)
Protocol 1: 5g Test Cyp cream ED
Test Tot 537
Test Free 8.1 (1.55%)
SHBG 53
E2 (ECLIA, measured) 24.1
E2 (Sensitive, calc) 20.3
E Tot 124 (range 40-115) (High)
E1 55 (range 12-72)
Protocol 2: 75mg E3.5D Test Cyp injection
Test Tot 985
Test Free 23.2 (2.4%)
SHBG 31.5
E2 (ECLIA, calc) 53 (High)
E2 (Sensitive, measured) 44.6 (High)
E Tot NA
E1 NA
Protocol 3: 60mg E3D Test Cyp injection + 500IU HCG
Test Tot 693
Test Free 15 (2.2%)
SHBG 33.5
E2 (ECLIA, measured) 48.4 (High)
E2 (Sensitive, measured) 40.7 (High)
E Tot 168(range 40-115) (High)
E1 90 (range 12-72) (High)
Looking for advice on what to try next to get my labs in order. I've used E2 ECLIA and Sensitive testings (last one both out of interest) so I'm posting both with a note if it's calculated or measured. All labs are Labcorp and taken 2018 with corresponding ranges.
I'm having hard time understanding how 1.43mg decrease in T injections lowered the Total T (and Free in correlation) by 30% while SHBG stayed the same? The E levels could be explained by HCG, right?
My end goal would be to find a T + HCG protocol that keeps the E levels within ranges without the need of AI, even with lower than ideal T levels. What I've thought as the next steps would be to do EOD 20mg T injections, get new set of tests and if E has decreased bring the HCG back with very small doses at first. Does this make sense?
Baseline before starting TRT
Test Tot 360-370
Test Free 6-7
SHBG 30-38
E2 (ECLIA, measured) 14-18
E2 (Sensitive, calc) 12-15
E Tot 116 (range 40-115) (High)
E1 57 (range 12-72)
Protocol 1: 5g Test Cyp cream ED
Test Tot 537
Test Free 8.1 (1.55%)
SHBG 53
E2 (ECLIA, measured) 24.1
E2 (Sensitive, calc) 20.3
E Tot 124 (range 40-115) (High)
E1 55 (range 12-72)
Protocol 2: 75mg E3.5D Test Cyp injection
Test Tot 985
Test Free 23.2 (2.4%)
SHBG 31.5
E2 (ECLIA, calc) 53 (High)
E2 (Sensitive, measured) 44.6 (High)
E Tot NA
E1 NA
Protocol 3: 60mg E3D Test Cyp injection + 500IU HCG
Test Tot 693
Test Free 15 (2.2%)
SHBG 33.5
E2 (ECLIA, measured) 48.4 (High)
E2 (Sensitive, measured) 40.7 (High)
E Tot 168(range 40-115) (High)
E1 90 (range 12-72) (High)