5 months after steroid abuse

[blitz_silvia]

Hi Guys,

So basically I used steroids for about a year straight, dont need to hear how dumb it was, I wasnt using insane amounts, 500mg test for most of the time and then other things on top like tren, equipoise, deca, masterone (not all at the same time) anyways, I always used arimidex during that entire year and when I stopped using steroids I immediately ran HGC at about 250iu eod for 2 weeks, 3 weeks after stopping i used clomid for about 5-6 weeks at 50mg.

At the time of stopping my libido was terrible and the testosterone felt useless, i think it was due to the deca, as soon as i started using the HCG i felt amazing, everything kicking back in and felt like i was recovering fine, after i stopped and was just using clomid the effect of the HCG wore off fast, anyways long story short, 5 months now and i have had a blood test and my testosterone was 2.45 ng/mL or 245 ng/dL

before i ever used any steroids my test level was almost double that, so not amazing but average.

Any suggestions on where i can go from here ? try again to recover or just get on HRT ?

 

[Gene Devine]

Looks like your PCT re-start didn't work...how old were you when you ran this long cycle?

Might want to try it again and see if you can get HPTA re-started.

If that fails, you may need to find a HRT Doc who knows more advanced protocols to get you re-started.

You should know that getting re-started is hit and miss for many guys and you may need to face the reality that you may never get re-started again.

If that is the case, it will be a life long commitment to TRT.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

https://www.excelmale.com/?s=56-How...-Safely-and-Possibly-Reset-Your-Hormonal-Axis

Blitz

You may want to read the above article. I describe Dr Scally's HPTA reset protocol. It may or may not work, but it is worth a shot. The folks at www.DefyMedical.com follow this protocol for people like you who used anabolic steroids and want to see if their testosterone production normalizes with a jump start protocol. Keep in mind that no controlled studies have been done on this approach. The medications used are well known to the bodybuilding community. Dr Scally and I presented a paper at a conference as you can see in the PDF attached to the article but that was a small case study.

 

[blitz_silvia]

Thanks to both for the replies, very much appreciated.

So I have decided that i will go with a TRT for now, as living in Thailand I dont need to see any doctors to get the stuff, basically going to use testoviron at 1ml per week and HCG at 500iu twice a week, I figure that because originally my numbers at around 28yrs were around 450 that going through another re-start protocol I may not get up to optimal levels, also I figure by using the HCG it should keep the plums alive and if i decide to stop i may be able to recover and still have children,

let me know if you have any suggestions,

Thanks

 

[Gene Devine]

Just keep an eye on E2. 1 ml (most likely 100 mg) per week is a relatively low dose but you still need to monitor.

You may be better off injecting 1/2 ml twice weekly like Monday morning and Thursday night; this will help keeping E2 in check as well.

Also, you may want to take 50 mg of DHEA and Pregnenolone each morning just to back-fill your pathways when on TRT.

50 mg of Zinc is also recommended to help with E2...plus it's just good for men anyway.

GD

 

[blitz_silvia]

Thanks for that, its actually testoviron depot im using, so an enanthate ester, 250mg per ml, i think once every 7 days should be ok, any thoughts on this ?

I have arimidex and my estrogen was already super low from using that so ill prob adjust the dose and continue to get bloods done every 4 weeks and find out what works best for me.