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    6 weeks into daily injections. Labs donít make sense to me!

    Hey guys! I just got back on injections after being on clomid for awhile. I’m 6 weeks into daily injections at 20mg a day just got my first set of labs back and I’m puzzled.

    Protocol: 20mg daily
    Age: 30 years old

    Testosterone: 664
    Free Testosterone: 176.6
    Estradiol: 54

    Red Blood Cells: 6.07
    Hematocrit: 50.8
    Hemoglobin: 15.4

    What’s going on? My body seems to be reacting to a high testosterone dose but total is lower than expected. I’m confused. I have an arimidex rx on hand but didn’t want to just start taking it as i am very sensitve to it. HCG is coming this week and I would like a fine balance before adding it in to my protocol.

    Any thoughts?
    Last edited by leatherjacket99; 11-15-2017 at 02:39 PM.

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    We need lab results with reference ranges.

    Also, which Estradiol test did you have done? Was it the Estradiol, Sensitive, LC/MS test (8.0−35.0)?

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    Basically, with less frequent injections your peak levels will be higher, but your toughs will be lower. What you are seeing is more of a steady state level switching to daily, so labs may be lower than what your prior labs showed, depending of the timing of the blood draw versus last injection.

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    I'm injecting 20mg of T cyp daily, I know another member who needs 28mg daily for good results. It just shows how different we all are.
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    what were you expecting?

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    Sorry. Here are the lab ranges:

    Testosterone Total LC/MS/MS: 664 (Range: 250-1100 ng/DL)
    Free Testosterone: 176.6 (Range: 35.0-155.0 pg/mL)
    Estradiol (Sensitive): 54 (Range: < or = 39 pg/mL).

    I was expecting a higher total and possibly lower estradiol levels because of the daily injections, and definitely a lower red blood cell counts. I had red blood cells elevated like that when I was on a 200mg/week protocol awhile back. But I am slightly overweight maybe there is more aromatization going on? Like Vince said, everyone is truly different!
    Last edited by leatherjacket99; 11-21-2017 at 04:26 PM.

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