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@madman all the studies you listed say that no CV risk increase for low normal replacement level and one was even at 350? Are there risks at 800-900 levels? The powerpoint above from the doc also states that no CV risk in hypogonadal men but what if my levels are 500 and I start trt to 800-900...

I think that's why you noticed a difference going from 292 to 500s that Natesto does will help a lot but someone who is already at 500 won't see much difference. I am using it 3 times a day.

I see. Well it hasn't worked for me. What was your level before Natesto

so you think natesto works?

Well 500 could be low T for someone could be plenty for someone else everyone is different. I do drink coffee with it. I read somewhere that someone said they have T levels of 500 and Nateso brought them down to 400s.

My free test was actually in the high range of the lab reference range and SHBG was around 17 if I remember correctly?

Hey brother. I have done all that taken zinc magnesium omegas worked out and still have symptoms. I am 22 and have symptoms since I was 18. I only have one ball.

My T before Natesto sits at 500-570 so I doubt this will work for me. I saw in their research that it brings men to around 800 from the baseline of 300 but I have not experienced that symptom wise. Maybe it does but it wears off quickly for it to have any effect?

Also how long should I take Natesto before pulling the plug? I heard people say it's instantaneous where unlike injections it might take 2-4 weeks to feel better.

But the HCG is not a guarantee that it maintains fertility.

Been having low T symptoms now for a while and I want to maintain fertility. Have used HCG monotherapy which raised my bloods but no symptom improvement. My baseline T is always around 500-570. I am using Natesto now for 3 days with no symptom improvement. How long does this take to work?

I see. How long will it take for my pituitary to kickstart LH production again?

Hey. My last dose was last Friday. Today I am having some brain fog/ headache. Is it my body just bouncing back and the pituitary coming back on again to produce LH? How long will this take?

Thank you for your comment. I honestly feel no difference at all apart from maybe more morning erections but the erection quality is still pretty bad. My goal is mostly wellbeing and ED as I feel like shit most of the time. Will the LH start rising and if so how long will it take. Will I also...

Last labs done 3 months ago: Test: 550 ng/dL LH: 10 FSH: 5 Normal E2 I feel no change in my symptoms. Thoughts? Also do I need PCT for low LH and FSH?

I am not asking about hcg pct, rather TRT. The hcg mono is not working so I might try out trt with my doctor. My only problem is that both tamoxifen and clomid are known to have visual side effects so I'm not sure what to take for pct, when and if I stop trt. You mention time, but it will not be...

Isn't tamoxifen structurally close to clomid so it will have the same effects. hCG is also suppressive in nature right?

I took both clomid and enclomid and I could not tolerate them due to their visual side effects. What else can I take for PCT?

Got you. I have been on it for 2 weeks now with no effects. Does it mean it's probably not going to work? Some context: I only have one testicle with normal sperm analysis and 600 ng test at 22.

I have been having low test symptoms so my dr decided to do hcg mono at 1000 IU 3x a week for 2 months. When I asked him if pct is required he said no. Is hcg suppressive for 2 months use and do I need pct after?