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Sorry mate, missed your reply - thanks for letting me know. My experience was different. Who prescribed the Gonal-F ?

UGL is the last (never a) resort imo - half of it is fake, if it's really you can't verify how much you're getting and you can't guarantee long-term, customs as you say, HPLC certificates can be faked, don't really have time to trial and error when sperm takes up to 3 months to mature (as well...

rFSH (FSH) is literally the acts as a signal to the testes to produce sperm. LH/HCG signals the testes mainly to produce testosterone, through this process, production of sperm and FSH can also increase. HMG has both LH and FSH. In addition to needing adequate levels of both LH and FSH to...

I'm not surprised, your interest seems to have provided a wealth of knowledge on the topic. Good point about perspectives of those choosing to go on TRT. For my current issue, I've looked at posts, studies, articles with primary focus on achieving fertility. Guess this will lend itself to...

Thanks, I tell you what, it's been a ride that I won't soon forget. Appreciate your help which provided confidence to continue my plan and to address it with doctors. I sought the HCG from an online doctor, who prescribed 1000 IU 3x a week for low testosterone. After reviewing two...

Hi again! After 1 month of HPTA recovery: on HCG 1500 IU EOD and Clomid 50mg daily: LH and FSH are up from zero to 1.7 and 2.0 IU/L. Testosterone from zero to 14.8 nmol/L! The only thing is my SHBG is quite high at 84 nmol/L, so free testosterone is very low at about 150 pmol/L. Do you think...

Thanks again - unfortunately there is a lot of misinformation on the internet about HCG; this clears it up for me and honestly has reduced my stress levels tenfold. The FDA equivalent body in Australia is called the Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA) and yes, they have approved HCG for male...

Came across this video (linked below) showing a new study outlining that Taurine supplementation might increase Gnrh, FSH, LH and general testicular health. - relevant commentary from @24:25 Thoughts on adding 1g/day to the supp stack?

Could be ok since pharmacies make compounded recombinant solutions mixed with both but can't say for sure if your reconstituted versions will/won't interact with each other - might be safer to just take each separately. I get it would be lot more efficient doing this stuff every day/other day...

Thanks very much, @aneuman for such a comprehensive response. Extremely useful. Sorry, I should've clarified I'm aware of how each HCG and Clomid work in isolation, I mean to ask about the effects on the hypothalamus and pituarity signalling of FSH while both HCG and Clomid are acting in your...

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Yeah works, HCG + hmg + Clomid is basically the Dave Palumbo protocol, he's said it's worked for huge number of his enhanced athletes.

Hi all, Firstly, thanks to Nelson and all on the forum for sharing the breadth of your knowledge online, it's taught and helped me so much. I was hoping I could pick your brains about a specific fertility protocol used by Dr. Ramasamy (interviewed by Nelson on podcast). Mainly, it is HCG...

I think it's more likely HCG + enclo/Clomid can get natural test to come back but sometimes for sperm you'll need HMG/FSH- it's impossible to get these in Australia.

Most people that use it in Australia get it from underground labs or black market. There are select doctors too but best bet is probably trying with peptide clinics around that can prescribe online.

Why do fertility specialists prescribe Clomid and HCG together for secondary Hypogonadism, do they not work in synergy to improve spermatogenesis? Assuming HCG shuts down endogenous LH production, how hard would it be for someone to restart HPTA after coming off above fertility protocol? Surely...