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    Stopped hCG and feel no difference?

    Hi, My current protocol is 4 pumps of androgel daily with 500iu's of hCG every other day. I've hit over 1300 total T on this protocol: My labs on 4 pumps of Androgel and 500iu's of hCG EOD With the pandemic, I couldn't get the hCG and I only had one bottle left so I stretched it out. For the...
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    Are there any problems with having zero gonadotrophin?

    I've been on TRT for 6 years now and I have no complaints. It's been wonderful for me. I'm on 4 pumps of Androgel daily with 500iu's of HCG every other day. I remember reading, a long time ago, that HCG is recommended with TRT and one of the reasons is that it'll activate LH receptors across...
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    HCG Dose Question

    I've been on TRT since 2013 and I started at 250iu's of HCG twice a week and my testicles got softer and started shrinking. I immediately added a third shot (so now I was up to 250iu's on M-W-F) and it was fine. I then tried 150iu's per day and that went well too. I then read about fertility...
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    Misinformation like this is why it's hard to get TRT

    https://pagesix.com/2018/03/30/tarek-el-moussa-steroids-ruined-my-life/ So, this guy has a whole host of issues but the one thing they focus on is that he's on TRT from an "anti aging specialist" and they don't even call it TRT, they call it "steroids" It reminds me when Charlie Sheen blamed...
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    Does Shutting Down LH with Testosterone Have Negative Effects?

    I was on another site (I'm not sure if I can mention other sites here so I'll just play it safe and quote the question and response) and someone asked a question about the downsides of TRT. Here is the question: "Is this true: there are countless secondary metabolic/hormonal pathways which...
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    Will this change things for the worse? Article recommends T level of 264-916

    http://www.menshealth.com/health/is-your-testosterone-level-normal?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=Social&utm_term=790732743&utm_campaign=Men's%20Health https://academic.oup.com/jcem/article-lookup/doi/10.1210/jc.2016-2935 This is stating the range of T should be between 264-916. Can...
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    My labs on 4 pumps of Androgel and 500iu's of hCG EOD

    Hi, I just had labs done and I'm posting them up. I wasn't expecting to see over 1300 in total T, especially since I've been on Androgel since 2014 and it's been around 600-800. All I changed was my hCG. I was doing 120iu's a day and I switched to 500 eod. I don't have it here but the...
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    Diluting hCG

    Hi, I take 500iu's EOD of hCG. It comes in a 10,000 iu vial. What is do is add 4ml's of bac water to it and that lets me shoot 20 units for 500iu's on a 1CC insulin needle. 10,000iu's, with 4mLs of water is 2,500iu's per mL. That is 25iu's per unit so 20 units will give me 500iu's. Now...
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    FDA adds abuse warning to testosterone

    http://www.reuters.com/article/health-testosterone-fda-idUSL1N1CV1MA
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    Does losing weight change testosterone levels?

    Hi, When I started Androgel, 4 pumps with HCG EOD @ 300iu's, these were my numbers. All from Labcorp: 7/2014 - 585 & no free T measurement 10/2014 - 506 & 11.9 2/2015 - 697 & 16.7 5/2015 - 660 & 24 I get tested twice a year and I was around 227 pounds during that time. I decided to lose some...
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    Getting varicocele ligation, do you think it could restore my T levels?

    Hi, I am diagnosed with hypogonadism due to varicoceles. I have a grade 2+ on the right side. It causes a lot of pain and a grade 1 on the left side, that had no pain. I've had testicular pain since 2001 and I was diagnosed with chronic prostatitis and chronic eipdidymitis but, my new doctor...
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    At this point, can varicocele surgery help my testosterone level?

    Hi, I started TRT back in October of 2013. I've always used hCG throughout my TRT. Even though my LH and FSH was low normal, I was diagnosed with hypogonadism due to grade 2+ varicocele on my right testicle and a grade 1 varicocele on the left one. The docs have always urged surgery but I've...
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    What happens if I blast testosterone?

    I'm currently on Androgel 1.62, 4 pumps a day with 125u's of HCG daily. I switched over from injections in April. I still have 4 bottles of test cyp laying around and some exemestane (sp?). I was thinking of running a 12 week blast of 600mg's of Test C to finish out the old bottles...
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    Does weight loss/gain change anything?

    Hi, When I first started TRT, I weighed 227lbs. I now weigh 196lbs. I'm 5'11". I'm on 4 pumps of Androgel with 150units of HCG daily. I was reading around and I saw guys on 200-300 mg's of testosterone cypionate daily for TRT. When asked why their doses were so high, they would respond...
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    I want more

    Hi, I'm currently on Androgel and HCG. That gets me between 660-700. I feel great. Estrodial is around 27, DHT s around 78. Everything is in range. I have energy, losing weight, sleep well, sec life is great, mind is sharp, etc. Basically, I feel great. No complaints. But I want more...
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    Does anyone use Nandrolone (Deca Durabolin) ?

    My doc offered my nandrolone and aid it would help me build muscle. I read about it and it looks like it causes erectile dysfunction. When I asked him about it, he said that for some people, it can, but if it does, regular function comes back a few weeks after stopping. I read something...
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    Latest labs on Androgel 1.62%

    Testosterone Serum 660 (348-1197) Frere testosterone 24 (8.7-25.1) Estrodial 43.8 (7.6-42.6) - I got the wrong one WBC 4.7 ref 3.8-10.8 RBC 5.37 ref 4.20-5.80 Hemoglobin 14.5 ref 14-18 Hematocrit 46.7 ref 40-52 MCV 87 ref 80-95 MCH 27.0 ref 27.0-33.0 MCHC 31 ref 32.0-36.0 LOW RDW 13.9 ref...
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    Injections for muscle, gels for sex drive- Role of DHT

    Hi, How true is this statement? Someone said that on another forum and when he was asked to please explain it, he stated that gels raise DHT, which is for sex drive. On the other hand, injections raise testosterone levels higher, so that is for muscle. I've been trying to read and understand...
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    Question about injection frequency

    I was talking to my doctor about injection frequency. He prescribed 200mg's of test c (I don't inject that much, I use 100-120) and don't remember the iu's of hgc. All I know is he gave me 11,000iu's a month (I don't fill it monthly since I don't need that much and it would get expensive). I...
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    What is Vogelxo

    Hi Guys, i was searching around on the net and found this: http://www.vogelxo.com/ Is this a generic for Androgel/Testim? From what I read on the site, it looks like a replacement for Androgel 1%
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    Looks like I have to go back to injections

    Hi, My most recent numbers on Androgel 1.62%, 4 pumps with 150iu's of HCG daily were: DHT: 70 (ref. 30-85) Testosterone, total: 697 (ref. 348-1197) Testosterone, free: 16.7 (ref. 8.7-25.1) Estrodial, sensitive: 27 (ref. 3-70) I'm changing docs and going back to my old one. He is prescribing...
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    Any studies to show little or no LH and FSH on Androgel

    Hi, my doc wants to recheck my LH and FSH because he said that at physiological levels, my LH and FSH should not change. I told him that I read that exogenous testosterone causes then to turn off. He doesn't agree. Does anyone know of any studies or something that I can show him? Preferably...
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    Should I have LH/FSH?

    Hi, before I started Androgel, my number were 292 total testosterone (348-1197), 8.88 free testosterone, 3.4 FSH (1-12) and 3.0 LH (2-12). My my doc was telling me that I should still have a LH and FSH signal. I told him that i don't think I should because I've been on Androgel since April. I...
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    Question about Androgel and Injection

    Hi, I'm currently on Androgel, 4 pumps. I have hCG too. I've been on it for 7 months. I used to be on injections for 6 months before. Basically, I've been on TRT for a year. Half of it's been on injections and the other half has been on Androgel. I switched up because I wanted to try...
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    Would blasting mess up my dial in?

    Hi, i'm pretty well on my 4 pumps a day of Androgel and 150iu's of HCG. My T is in the 800's, my free T is 19 (ref 8-25), and my estradiol sensitive is 27 (on LabCorp). Everything is great and I feel good. I have 6, ten mL vials of Watson Test C 200mg from my injecting days. If I take 600mgs a...
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    How to Increase Absorption of Testosterone Gel

    Hi, My doc and I have been trying to nail down my Androgel 1.62 dosage and it's been pretty hard to nail it down. I started on the end of April and here are the results: On July 2, 3 pumps, 350 iu's of HCG Mon, Wed, Fri - 585 total, 11.9 free, DHT-78 (ref 30-85) On August 13, 4 pumps, 350iu's...
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    What would injections do for me?

    Hi, I started Androgel back in April and I'm now on 4 pumps. I get my Androgel from my urologist and my insurance covers it completely. I got labs done and total t came up to 838 (ref 348-1197) and free t was 19 (ref 8.7-25.1). Now, these labs were after I applied the Androgel in the morning...
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    Dr. Joseph Olivieri

    Hi, Dr. Joseph Olivieri is an HIV Specialist who also administers TRT. I found him in NYC through my insurance company. He accepts insurance and prescribes hCG and AI's if needed. He is located on 139 Fulton St., NYC, NY 10038 and the phone is (212) 406-0134. I think he's a great doctor...
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    Hello Guys: Checking in

    Hello, I just wanted to drop in and say hello. I bought Nelson's book and read it back and forth and now I'm here to learn more about hypogonadism. I'm 38 years old and had a reading of 290 (241-827) and 277 (241-827) for testosterone levels last year. After trying to raise it for a year, I...
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