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How does this work out in terms of cost and logistics as empower only has the 20% 30mL clickers. Do you have to order 2 of those at a time or do you order 1 clicker but more frequently than once a month ? Or is it a larger clicker ?

awesome, now lets wait for a nasal irritation free ,cheaper compounded version of this lol ! Probably 5-10 years later, people on new forms of trt may look back with pity on us for what we had available.

I've always been curious about this. Do you know of any studies on health young men that show this ? To mimic the pulsatile nature of T is quite a challenge - would something like natesto may come closer than cream perhaps when dosed multiple times a day.

Just curious if you were looking in the context of maintaining fertility or just in general ? If its unrelated to fertility , then i doubt if there's anything concrete which could sway insurance. Nelson will know more about this.

Thanks Vince. Would you mind sharing your dosage as well as your thyroid numbers (free t3, rt3,tsh) if available. Do you take a combination or t3 alone ? I was wondering if a combination of t3/t4 may result in more rt3 from the t4.

True about the benefits. Do you leave the thyroid as is or do you supplement t3/t4 ?

Is anyone on keto on here ? I started earlier this year and amazingly dropped 30 lbs in 5-6 months with a 4 inch waist reduction on a strict keto diet. Amazing because I've been trying for a decade and never got close to losing it. One of the effects is that your free T3 is down regulated. Keto...

Wow, wish i could get close to those numbers on just 2 clicks - you have solid balls lol ! Your e2 at 33 sounds surprisingly low for a T of 1500. Other than the side effects you mentioned, did you notice increased acne and body hair ? Those are the primary sides for me. I was trying to remember...

Have you kept a log of when you felt good - the 10% ? Perhaps that might yield some clues. I always find it useful to lookup my food/mood/supplement log anytime i veer of course. Are you following some kind of diet - i ask because of the the low Cholesterol and relatively high Tsh. How is you...

In the first 1.5 hours, your dht should not be near the peak. I think in the Iyer study, the dht peak happened 4.9 h after which was delayed by 2 h after peak serum testosterone. So that's why I found it interesting. The concern about prolonged high levels is probably unfounded.

And I believe you indicated that your DHT returns to baseline after 24 hours. For me, with 3 clicks ,after 24 hours its 174. Which make's stepbystep's level of 240 on 1 click after 24 hours interesting. dht peaks I think a couple hours after the Test peak. So he theoretically should have been...

Dude,i never knew this was an option! Am i understanding this right - can i walk in with lab tests from say discounted labs and get a prescription for T from these walk in clinics? Or is Defy actually writing the prescription ?

Wish we had more studies on compounded scrotal creams. I assume you are referring to the Androforte study which found a peak around 1.9 to 2.8 hours after dosing. But surely, you and OP on just 1 click probably fall back to baseline within 24 hours - don't you guys feel any symptoms creeping...

The numbers are really not that important if you're feeling good. If you do want to see a higher TT and FT, then apply 2 or 3 clicks to the scrotum instead of just 1. You are frankly wasting cream (&money!) by applying on your ribcage - transference risk may be potentially higher too. You...

The only thing they confirmed so far is that they do offer both Versa base and HRT base. Did not ask about Atrevis. If you are applying to the scrotum then most available bases would have good absorption. Hopefully they will share the ingredients soon. I'm not sure why they don't include that...

I have an email out to them asking to provide the ingredient list. Calling did not make sense to list out probably 10+ complex chemical names over the phone.

Have you decided on your planned protocol in terms frequency & dose ? The case study mentioned in this thread is quite limited and only shows measurements to 6 hours. I don't know if we have any good studies on scrotal compounded creams - the only one i know of is the androforte study which only...

Does anyone have the list of ingredients used in the 20% cream by Empower or other such compounding pharmacies ? I guess the base (versabase, HRT base, lipoderm etc) used will determine this. My topiclick says "200 mg in a transdermal base" but not the actual ingredients. The reason I was asking...

sigh, i assumed the trough would crash the DHT so that my doc would not panic but my grand plan did not work out. So its going to be an interesting follow up appointment!

I usually measure closer to the peak between 4-5 hours after application. I had not measured DHT before so no idea about what that would be. I first started on 4 clicks and saw 1300 similar to this case study (but got too much acne) : Case Study: Absorption of Testosterone Cream via Scrotal...

I have been on the scrotal cream for the last few months. My dose for the last month before the test was 3 clicks (150 mg) once in the morning. I wanted to check how fast the cream leaves the system and my levels at the trough. What i see 24 hours after application of 3 clicks: Total T: 600...

I have been following this and other threads on this matter and I have been very surprised by your change of opinion. While others laud you for being "open minded" I am trying to understand the (convenient) change in thinking. It was just recently that you had initiated a thread complaining...

sigh.. that is true. I was hoping to ditch AI but it does seem it will be a constant fixture in my protocol. Right now I'm getting the cheap 1 mg tablets and breaking them up and hoping that the 1 mg AI is equally distributed across the tablet. I see that empower sells them in tiny .125mg sizes...

Thanks Vince, I do remember reading about your and Coastwatchers daily protocol. The only concern I had was that both of you seem fairly lean and not e2 prone as I am ; hence my thought process of starting quite low at 10mg and working up.

It was the regular test. I know I should take the sensitive one but my doc insists that the accuracy of the sensitive test only comes into play when measuring low levels of e2. I plan on testing sensitive e2 once i feel stable for a few weeks to know where my optimal value lies.

Thanks Vince. Was curious about the above point. Is that something you have observed for yourself personally or a more general concept ? Just thought of checking as I hadn't heard this before.

Hello, I started TRT about 10 months ago at age 40 and am still trying to dial things in. I initially started on 80mg T cyp and 250 iu hcg - both taken twice a week. The honeymoon period only lasted about a month before i started getting bloated, overly emotional, lethargic etc. 3 months later...

Managing high Free T with low-normal SHBG Hi Dr Rand, Thank you to both you and excelmale for providing this forum to interact with you. I was hoping you could provide some guidelines on optimizing FT/E2. i've been on a hormonal roller coaster after having started TRT recently with T Cyp (80mg...