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I just talked to my new general practitioner today and we decided to put my sperm under the microscope and see what kind of count and fuction is there. If it doesn't look good I'm going to come off of trt and go from there. I'm really trying to avoid coming off but if that's my only chance at...

From what I can see it looks like 3+ months, but the dosage is a lot more in these studies than what I'm taking

Thanks, I just wasn't really sure what to expect

Started hcg this week @125iu every day. Just wondering how long it will take for my body to start sperm production. I've been on trt without hcg for almost a year, the wife and I are trying to have a baby now. I've never had my sperm tested, but I know testosterone shuts down production.

How was your estrogen on the 500iu does?

Nice. As long as I can have a kid, I feel like less is more. Definitely want to keep the side affects down

I'm not really sure if E2 plays a part, I'm definitely no expert. Just want to get my wife pregnant without making my health any worse. Seems like there is a lot of confusion as far as trt is concerned as to what the perfect treatment is

I'm not sure what he sent to the pharmacy, but the the label does read 2500iu twice a week. Maybe the pharmacy screwed up

Okay, thanks

Also, do I need to cycle the hcg at all? I've seen some recommend 1 week on 3 weeks off. I got 6 months worth of refills

Cool. Thanks for the help, I thought 2500iu seemed way too high. Hopefully this will get the boys swimming, really don't want to come off of trt.

Yeah, the pharmacy gave me some nice 3ml syringes to inject im lol. The smallest I have on hand are 1ml syringes

I didn't mix it, my doc sent me to a compounding pharmacy. There's 4ml in the bottle @ 5000iu per ml. So if 2500iu is .5 then that means .1 would be 500iu which would make .05=250iu and .025=125iu, right?

Yeah, I know sending my estrogen through the roof is definitely not good. Just wondering how I can split the dose down to where I can use it properly. Seems like it would be like .025 to get 125ui but I'm not 100% on the math. Definitely hard to load that amount in a syringe accurately too

Yeah, that's what I figured... he was also telling me that hcg isn't really going to help me but I could try it anyway. I'm wondering if maybe this is more of a dose to help jumpstart someone who has low testosterone but isn't on trt? I know it can help increase natural test production. At $150...

I have been on trt for almost a year, and my wife and I have been trying to conceive for the past 2 years. Even before the trt we didn't have any luck. I've read about hcg being used to stay fertile during trt and really wanted to give it a shot. I talked to my doctor and he prescribed me hcg...

My wife works for a cardiologist, I'm going to have him check out my shoulders this week and see if 1/2 will get deep enough

I'm excited to give it a try, my only worry is that 1/2 length won't be enough to get into the muscle. My shoulders seem fairly muscular and lean, but I'm no expert

I'm fairly new on trt (26). I've been struggling with it, but as ERO and CoastWatcher said, it's because I have been dealing with a doctor that doesn't really understand trt and all that goes along with it. Now that I'm making some changes for the better, I feel like trt will help give me back a...

That's a good point. Do the shoulder injections work well for you Vince?

Yeah, I'll be ordering some half inch 27g this week to do the shoulder injection method. I'm kinda worried 1/2 won't be long enough but it seems to work well so others so I guess we'll see. That's definitely good information, I'm sure all that test adds up.

I can change the dosing with pretty much no problems, I just live in a small town so we don't really have the best services around. I'm currently looking for a new doctor that will hopefully turn this around for me. Someone that will prescribe hcg, etc. Also looking into defy

I know the amount would be the same overall, I would just be a week ahead on my dosing schedule if I pinned this monday. Considering I only got 1 vial the last time I refilled because they didn't have enough to fill my full prescription, I don't want to risk it lol

Disregard the question of shot angle, I rewatched the video and he does mention that he injects at 90 °. Sorry for the confusion

I will most like have to wait until the 19th to start the new protocol. My insurance only covers 5x1ml vials at once for some reason, so if I start too soon I could end up shorting myself towards the end before I refill my prescription. The walmart where I fill my prescription usually seems to...

Yeah, I don't really want to bottom out. Especially since the trt doesn't really seem to anything for me so far. I'm hoping that leveling out will make me feel better. Also in Nelson's video it didn't really show a good example of shot placement. It looks like he is injecting at a 90° angle but...

Would pinning again that soon keep my levels a little more elevated since I won't be dropping off as much before injecting again? Have my level just a tad higher definitely wouldn't hurt my feelings lol

So I've been pinning 200mg test cyp every two weeks as my doc prescribed. I've decided to start pinning 50mg twice weekly instead, just to level out more and hopefully improve my symptoms. I just don't know when to switch over and pin again. I just pinned this past Wednesday (October 7th)...

Is the shoulder im injection in one of the stickies?

My doctor didn't tell me that I would be on trt for life, but I did enough research on my own to know this would be a life choice. Hopefully I'll find a new doctor next week that will get me where I need to be, but I don't really have the time as of now. Im stuck working nightshift until Tuesday.

Wow, 27ga is tiny! Do you use a different size to load? It seems like 27ga would take forever.