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Just to add, the desensitization part is not well established, i would not worry too much as in a popular study 500iu every other day resulted in +25% intratesticular testosterone, if you were planning to run fertility protocols infinitely that would be another deal.

Here is some reading, you can find more, the dosing schedules on hcg vary greatly just like with testosterone, you have to be the judge, but it is well established that testosterone peaks at around 72hrs post injection...

You don't end up being suppressed, your hpta is shut down while on it sure, but recovery will 100% be faster than being on testosterone, since your balls have not been shut down. It might not work long term for everyone, but you wouldn't know how it is for you without trying, since you are...

Why not just start off with hcg mono then, and see where it takes your levels, you will have a better picture of your balls capabilities?

Is it not quite fast acting, i'd probably just take it as needed, in as small doses as you can to get the benefit

Check this out, the worst is, there is no way to know, some of the food is probably tested but not on the regular. https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6651/15/9/576

regarding the diet talk, if anyone is looking for another rabbit hole to dive in, take a look at mycotoxins in food and feed, there is a lot of data on it, but it is less discussed, it has well been recognized as a problem. The moldy feeds with toxins can lead to animal produce containing...

Yes progesterone, and perhaps DHT.

How about your pregnenolone?

yeah my suggestion was based on that knowledge, i am going to get it tested myself tomorrow after a long time, my diet has been very heavy on eggs, dairy and meat.

I recommend frontloading with a bigger starting dose, the ester is very slow and will take forever to build up if you start out with 125mg weekly.

Have you tested b12 lately, possibly too high?

same experience, just went back to uHCG and confirmed.

So it works just as well or even better intramuscularly, i have never tried but plannning to give it a shot.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3973773/ AND then again: "There was a significantly higher serum hCG level in the SC group (348.6 ± 98 IU/L) vs. the IM group (259.0 ± 115 IU/L) and a significantly higher follicular fluid hCG level in the SC vs. the IM group (233.5 ± 85 vs. 143.4 ±...

What i would like to know, could not find a thread on the subject, is has anyone noticed a difference when injecting HCG intramuscular instead of subq? I remember @Nelson Vergel used to do combined shots of t+hcg in the shoulder. Many studies on HCG used intramuscular route, on reddit you will...

I have never felt anything from taking vit D, is it something you feel acutely or once levels have built up? What are the most common things one should feel from taking it, or taking too much?

I really wish there was some actual data on the point of diminishing returns, as stated also in the study, hypogonadal levels are also detrimental to health, i guess you cannot go too wrong when keeping within the reference range, stlll makes you wonder if top of that range is already causing...

Steroidplotter has been renewed, big time, the old version can still be found, but many things seem to be off with the new one, they say they have really been digging into studies but for example i made a graph on daily propionate and there was hardly ANY variability in the levels. What do you...

Yes and pretty sure many will notice the adverse effects of added e2 orally or otherwise like myself, the most hardcore antiAI docs out there are bragging on their e2 add ons of course, meanwhile if you take notes, on the hardcore side of "there is no such thing as too high e2" certain behaviour...

Yet some claim testosterone to be a vasodilator Would this mean less bulging veins, that would be an interesting way to cauge optimal levels.

Seems this statement was around when standard trt was one bolus dose every 2-3 weeks, it seems like weekly injections are the new standard, gel could also be labeled standard trt. The standard would largely depend on the practicioner i guess. In Europe standard trt is 1ml/250mg injected every...

Robroy uses an analogy of plant watering, the thing is, the thirst that is quenched may vary, all men may not be equal in their saturation point, meaning adverse effects do occur before the receptors in tissues are done taking more in, over simplifying things has a strong appeal.

We all know the type of small business owner who gets agravated when something is questioned.

Now this is making much more sense than the message usually coming through that excess does not matter because receptors are full. That target would often seem to be much too low, probably due to EDCs fooling the e2 receptors. I have gotten the adverse effects, primarily much increased...

Checked it, how about that receptor saturation theory, when unwanted side effects occur on high doses?

All valid suggestions, yesterday i took 260iu, max doses have been 1000iu at once, to be fair i am very prone to nasal congestion, pde5 inhibitors are pretty much a no go. I need to get some urinary hcg at some point to see if the same thing happens, have used it in the past but impossible to...

Ok, has anyone noticed the same, i was struggling with stuffed nose especially during the night recently, i was using hcg, ovitrelle to be specific, took a break for a while. I connected the dots as yesterday i took a dose after weeks off, lo and behold last night i woke up during the night as a...

I was going to say the same, sounds like a surefire way to mouthbreathing

Hmm, what stance does dr nichols and tot-supra-or-none crowd have on dht since they are cream guys, they advocate getting e2 high for benefits but have they mentioned anything on dht long term, at least Jay and Keith have transparent hairstyles. @Charliebizz are you noticing any hair loss on cream?

recently on another forum when the topic was raised there were quite a few guys on high end doses long term without hcg that reported poor orgasm quality...So you get sides from hcg? I get them as well, mood issues especially, then again i get shrinkage and would like to run hcg. There must be...