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If your doctor won't order the sensitive estradiol test, arrange it yourself via www.discountedlabs.com. Monitoring e2 is a critical part of protocol management.

It is certainly possible that the issues you describe are related to estradiol levels. The only way you'll know is to test. Do you live in the US or Canada?

Certainly. Five years ago when I adopted a daily protocol I spent three to four weeks feeling as if I was at sea. Things settled, but it was a bumpy ride for a short period of time.

Congratulations. You're becoming your own health advocate; we've all had to do that. Spend more time here reading what you can on thyroid values and what the indicate/suggest. Don't be at all surprised if, once again, you have engage in educating your medical team. A result that's "in- range"...

If it was me, I'd repeat the CBC. If your doctor won't give you a lab order, use Discounted Labs and pull it yourself. Do I believe the lab made an error? Probably not - they grind out CBC results all day/every day. But before tinkering with protocols and adding new elements to your diet, let...

The abstract doesn't define "supraphysiologic," but we can feel certain the subjects in this aren't on a TRT-size dose.

Can you provide details of your protocol and details of your testing procedure? How long have you been on TRT? Was everything stable in regard to testing? You pulled blood at the same time in both tests relative to your injection schedule? Where does your SHBG sit?

You are exaggerating the effects of the honeymoon and far too fearful of the so-called crash. You may well experience a short, pleasant ride when TRT starts, a ride that will fade, but serum levels are going to be in flux as your therapy unfolds. You are not being plunged into a state of...

Typically, at the initiation of TRT, blood is drawn at the six week mark to determine serum levels and correlate those values with subjective response - how the patient feels. That doesn't mean the dialing-in process is over; in most cases (though not all) there will be protocol adjustments made...

Nearly five years into daily injections and I draw all over the place in terms of time. Initially, and for many years, that was because I, a Canadian, had no access to the sensitive e2 test. I regularly crossed the border and would arrange for a DiscountedLabs blood draw. Sometimes in the...

What other values can you share? Particularly your SHBG and estradiol/sensitive?

You are taking this daily? How long has your regimen been stable and steady?

A Message From Nelson Vergel Recently a controversy has arisen regarding the deletion and closure of threads and posts on Excelmale. The language used by certain members was heated; it was said that Excelmale was indifferent to free speech, engaged in knee-jerk censorship, and was even becoming...

Tramp, It seems your initial post slipped by all of us. I apologize...and welcome you to the Forum. I'm 61 and am using HCG now, but have gone through periods where it is not part of my protocol. You report satisfaction with your IM protocol of 250mg of testosterone every other week. Though...

Welcome to Excelmale. We're glad you found us and we hope you'll be as active as time and circumstances permit.

Thank you, @Gman86. In certain cases, for various reasons, what you are suggesting isn't possible. But for other situations, we will certainly try and adopt your idea.

For many, donating blood seems to be the price of admission to the TRT follies. That said, there's reason to believe you may stabilize as therapy continues - many do - or (as @Systemlord observed) various modifications related to amount injected and frequency of injection may help you. I'm in...

Nelson has directed the podcasts referenced in the thread to be deleted. Because of unfortunate, recent history, it is in the best interest of Excelmale that material generated by the host and guests of these podcasts not appear on the site. This thread is also now closed.

Some true gems out there.

It's a very poor idea. The man who is truly hypogonadal is dealing with a chronic medical condition; it's the ticket you've been given to play. It makes no sense to consider the course of action you discuss.

How old are you? Any history of bladder or prostate cancer in your family? Have you had any injury? It should certainly be evaluated by a doctor.

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You are consulting a doctor with, shall we say, limited understanding, of how to manage a patient on an androgen regimen. While it's true that testing a patient on a topical can be undertaken at an earlier point in time, there is reason to believe your drum has yet to settle if you've only...

True trough is captured the day of your injection, prior to the shot. If you inject on a Monday, have your blood pulled that morning, before you inject. Delaying the morning injection by an hour or so for these purposes isn't an issue. What prompts your protocol change?

As do I.

Anastrozole is a terrible drug - unless you need it to control your estradiol levels and then it becomes an absolutely necessary medication. Where you stand on this question comes down to how you feel. It all comes down to how YOUR system responds to exogenous testosterone. Anything you...

Exactly what I experienced.

Beware what my doctor calls the "TRT Fidget" - the ongoing effort to fix what doesn't need fixing.

You know your doctor; what will the reaction be if you raise questions about oxandrolone, stanozolol...and so forth? It's a fair question, but it may be anxiety-inducing in some physicians and - as a result - the patient may suffer.

Can you post the reference ranges for each lab test/result? Labs establish their own ranges and it provides context if we know with what standard you and your doctor will be evaluating these results. When were these taken in respect to your injection schedule? They are true tough readings...

Thank you for responding, @Jesse-Defy. As there is ample discussion of Defy on the site that can easily be accessed via a simple search, the thread is now closed.