Help increasing Estradiol

[Azza23]

Hi all,

After a bit of advice how to increase my e2 levels.

Currently taking Primoteston e6d and my T levels are great;
T - 29.3 nmol/L (10-35)
SHBG - 30 nmol/L (10-50)
Free T - 705 pmol/L (225-725)

E2 20.97 pg/ml

Ive found that when my E2 is low like this, I experience some pretty heavy bouts of OCD and fatigue and just general feelings of blah.

Im not taking an AI.

My first guess would be to increase my injection protocol to E8D or E9D but at the same time dont want to have the spikes.

Also DHEA is not available in Australia

 

[AndrogenHacker]

Hi all,

After a bit of advice how to increase my e2 levels.

Currently taking Primoteston e6d and my T levels are great;
T - 29.3 nmol/L (10-35)
SHBG - 30 nmol/L (10-50)
Free T - 705 pmol/L (225-725)

E2 20.97 pg/ml

Ive found that when my E2 is low like this, I experience some pretty heavy bouts of OCD and fatigue and just general feelings of blah.

Im not taking an AI.

My first guess would be to increase my injection protocol to E8D or E9D but at the same time dont want to have the spikes.

Also DHEA is not available in Australia

A couple of natural things to consider:

- Flax
- Soy

Both of these mimic estrogen.

You could consider Chasteberry as well, but do your research first.

Be safe.

Kind regards,

David

 

[Chroniclowe]

Hi all,

After a bit of advice how to increase my e2 levels.

Currently taking Primoteston e6d and my T levels are great;
T - 29.3 nmol/L (10-35)
SHBG - 30 nmol/L (10-50)
Free T - 705 pmol/L (225-725)

E2 20.97 pg/ml

Ive found that when my E2 is low like this, I experience some pretty heavy bouts of OCD and fatigue and just general feelings of blah.

Im not taking an AI.

My first guess would be to increase my injection protocol to E8D or E9D but at the same time dont want to have the spikes.

Also DHEA is not available in Australia

Increase testosterone dosage, use HCG, use oral pregnenolone, use cheap oral DHEA, dont use too much calcium d glucarate, DIM, boron, zinc and/or vitamin D, try to stay away from daily cialis and other pde5 inhibitors(those lower estrogen in some guys.) Dont use DHT compounds(stanozolol, anavar , proviron etc.)
Use estrogen(oral, estradiol gel, injections) , use something very aromatizing compound example dianabol or methyltestosterone (not longterm strategy)
And thank me later and never use AI! that poison destroyed my aromatisation permanently .

 

[Vince]

Hi all,

After a bit of advice how to increase my e2 levels.

Currently taking Primoteston e6d and my T levels are great;
T - 29.3 nmol/L (10-35)
SHBG - 30 nmol/L (10-50)
Free T - 705 pmol/L (225-725)

E2 20.97 pg/ml

Ive found that when my E2 is low like this, I experience some pretty heavy bouts of OCD and fatigue and just general feelings of blah.

Im not taking an AI.

My first guess would be to increase my injection protocol to E8D or E9D but at the same time dont want to have the spikes.

Also DHEA is not available in Australia

I don't think it's your estradiol is causing your issues. I wouldn't consider that low.

 

[Vince]

Here's my last labs. I don't use an AI.

Testosterone, Serum 1118 Reference Range: 264-916 ng/dL
Free Testosterone(Direct) 27.3 Reference Range: 6.6-18.1 pg/mL
Estradiol, Sensitive 19.8 Reference Range: 8.0-35.0 of/mL
SHBG 47.7 Reference Range: 19.3-76.4 nmol/L
DHEA-Sulfate 424.8 Reference Range: 30.9-295.6 ug/dL (age adjusted)
Albumin 4.3 Reference Range: 3.6-4.8 g/dL
Tru T 38.46 range 16-31 ng/dL

 

[VacationMan]

I don't think it's your estradiol is causing your issues. I wouldn't consider that low.

Agreed - E2 levels between 20 and 40 is perfect.

 

[rayrock1]

vince which labs use the Estradiol sensitive test. I have the choice in my state of Labcorp or Quest. Also I think I read you are using T with HCG twice a week. is that cypionate or enthaonate?

 

[VacationMan]

vince which labs use the Estradiol sensitive test. I have the choice in my state of Labcorp or Quest. Also I think I read you are using T with HCG twice a week. is that cypionate or enthaonate?

140244: Estradiol, Sensitive, LC/MS

Labcorp test details for Estradiol, Sensitive, LC/MS

www.labcorp.com

Unsure for Quest.

 

[Vince]

vince which labs use the Estradiol sensitive test. I have the choice in my state of Labcorp or Quest. Also I think I read you are using T with HCG twice a week. is that cypionate or enthaonate?

I use LabCorp. At the time of my labs I was injecting 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily and 500 iu of hCG twice a week. In over 5 1/2 years of trt I’ve never used an AI

 

[Vince]

I’ve always thought about increasing my hCG to 500 iu to three times a week. Maybe this will be the year I do it?

 

[rayrock1]

vince, you are injection the cypionate IM in the glutes? are you using 25 guage, 5/8 inch? the hcg also IM or sub q?thanks

 

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[Vince]

vince, you are injection the cypionate IM in the glutes? are you using 25 guage, 5/8 inch? the hcg also IM or sub q?thanks

No, I inject in the shoulders and VG. I use a 29 g half inch syringe for both HCG and testosterone cypionate. It makes for a nice shallow IM injection

 

[Vince]

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[Antonello]

Increase testosterone dosage, use HCG, use oral pregnenolone, use cheap oral DHEA, dont use too much calcium d glucarate, DIM, boron, zinc and/or vitamin D, try to stay away from daily cialis and other pde5 inhibitors(those lower estrogen in some guys.) Dont use DHT compounds(stanozolol, anavar , proviron etc.)
Use estrogen(oral, estradiol gel, injections) , use something very aromatizing compound example dianabol or methyltestosterone (not longterm strategy)
And thank me later and never use AI! that poison destroyed my aromatisation permanently .

What you mean by permanently? I also crashed from an AI and I don't seem to recover my estrogen with topical T Infact I get worse. Really the aromatase enzyme can be destroyed forever?

 

[Chroniclowe]

What you mean by permanently? I also crashed from an AI and I don't seem to recover my estrogen with topical T Infact I get worse. Really the aromatase enzyme can be destroyed forever?

Probably, i’ve seen about 10 cases including myself. One case was extreme, even after 5-years he didnt gain his aromatisation back, thats horror, and he only used exemestane monotherapy 4-weeks 25mg day. And one doctor said to me one aromatase inhibitor(exemestane) can permanently effect on aromatase enzymes. And i used also that in a past...
How long you’ve been suffering?

 

[Stylo]

Scary stuff. I know that drinking beer raises my E. But I done suffer if my E goes up. I experienced low E once, and stopped AIs immediately. My E is close to 50 and it goes up with the beer. So you could start a soy milk in the morning, beer in the evening regimen, for a couple of weeks.

 

[Nocalves]

I use LabCorp. At the time of my labs I was injecting 16 mg of testosterone cypionate daily and 500 iu of hCG twice a week. In over 5 1/2 years of trt I’ve never used an AI

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[Vince]

Do you know CMIA method? They claim it is sensitive...

The only estrogen labs I use, is the LC/MS/MS method.

 

[Nocalves]

The only estrogen labs I use, is the LC/MS/MS method.

Hard to find in my country- Czech Republic. Thx Anyway