What could cause decreasing TT on increasing T doses?

[smokedsalmon]

I've had an issue for the last couple of months now where my TT has not been nearly as high as it used to be given a particular dose of T cyp.

Early Feb I saw a 600 off 150mg/week.
Last week, 730 off of 182mg/week + 150IU HCG EOD.

Last fall, I was at 1200 with 200mg/week.

Where the hell could it be going to?

Also noticed my SHBG is going down - down to about 19 from ~30

 

[SilverSurfer]

150 iu of HCG only mildly elevates testosterone, if at all, for 8 hrs. You need a minimum dose of 250 iu for the effects to last 72 hrs.

I don‘t understand the issue. At:
150 mg per week = 600
182 mg per week = 730
200 mg per week = 1200

Plus your SHBG is coming down which many men find after several months / a year on TRT. If you’re injecting once per week and your SHBG has fallen, your body doesnt have it bound up, and is processed / eliminated from the body.

 

[smokedsalmon]

150 iu of HCG only mildly elevates testosterone, if at all, for 8 hrs. You need a minimum dose of 250 iu for the effects to last 72 hrs.

I don‘t understand the issue. At:
150 mg per week = 600
182 mg per week = 730
200 mg per week = 1200

Plus your SHBG is coming down which many men find after several months / a year on TRT. If you’re injecting once per week and your SHBG has fallen, your body doesnt have it bound up, and is processed / eliminated from the body.

Ah that makes more sense if my SHBG is still coming down.

And sorry, to clarify more, in September last year (3 months into TRT) I was on 150mg and TT was at 720 or so. Maybe I wasn't completely shut down?

Now that you mention it, I remember about HCG lasting much longer at 250IU+. I'm a little hesitant to try that over more T...have to think that one over.

Also, my E2 was at 20 this time around, which I suspect is from taking too much Cialis. Gonna tell the girl I need to take a break from that for a couple of weeks and see if I feel better when that comes up a bit.

 

[SilverSurfer]

Ah that makes more sense if my SHBG is still coming down.

And sorry, to clarify more, in September last year (3 months into TRT) I was on 150mg and TT was at 720 or so. Maybe I wasn't completely shut down?

Now that you mention it, I remember about HCG lasting much longer at 250IU+. I'm a little hesitant to try that over more T...have to think that one over.

Also, my E2 was at 20 this time around, which I suspect is from taking too much Cialis. Gonna tell the girl I need to take a break from that for a couple of weeks and see if I feel better when that comes up a bit.

hCG is quite tricky. I can only use it once per week at 250 iu. I usually don’t need an AI, but even only once per week of HCG I sometimes need to take .5 mg AI. Twice per week, and I definitely would have to.

If I use only 150 iu a few times per week my nuts don‘t rebound at all. I only use HCG for vanity reasons really.

 

[smokedsalmon]

hCG is quite tricky. I can only use it once per week at 250 iu. I usually don’t need an AI, but even only once per week of HCG I sometimes need to take .5 mg AI. Twice per week, and I definitely would have to.

If I use only 150 iu a few times per week my nuts don‘t rebound at all. I only use HCG for vanity reasons really.

Almost sounds like 250IU twice a week might make more sense for me then.