Playing with HCG gave me libido

madman

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*hCG stimulates Leydig cells leading to the increase in both intratesticular and circulating testosterone levels. The treatment with hCG alone is able to induce virilization, improve hypogonadism-related symptoms and, in some patients, to stimulate spermatogenesis. Co-administration of FSH is required to induce spermatogenesis in patients who are not responding to hCG alone. hCG is purified from the urine of pregnant women and administered intramuscularly at doses ranging from 1,000 to 2,000 IU 2–3 times a week. FSH is available as urine-derived human menopausal gonadotropin (hMG), highly purified FSH, and, more recently, as recombinant human FSH (rhFSH). Whereas hMG is a preparation containing FSH with variable traces of hCG, rhFSH and highly purified FSH have been introduced for providing preparations with pure FSH-like action. The dose usually employed ranges between 75 and 150 IU s.c. 2–3 times a week.
 

M.J

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Definitely would look into bumping up your dose to 150 IU if $$$ is not an issue.

*In everyday clinical practice, traditional treatment includes the administration of hCG (1000–1500 IU) and FSH (75–150 IU) 2 to 3 times per week.




Fig. (2). Induction of spermatogenesis in males with post-pubertal onset hypogonadotropic hypogonadism

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Thanks, if 150 is not a problem I will do just that. I will also do some semen test as I have been on hcg and fsh for a more than year now I think maybe two years but never did semen test (I have baseline test before trt) would be interesting to where do I stand as I go to 150 fsh.
 
Thanks, if 150 is not a problem I will do just that. I will also do some semen test as I have been on hcg and fsh for a more than year now I think maybe two years but never did semen test (I have baseline test before trt) would be interesting to where do I stand as I go to 150 fsh.
My hope has been to have my system handle at least a minimal amount of HCG to restart my testes while on TRT. I've tried 3 separate times, once 11 years ago, the 2nd time earlier this year, and the last time just this week. EACH of those attempts resulted in immense anxiety, a racing mind, and insomnia...for days. Just flat out miserable.

This last try this week was with only 50IU, which in terms discussed here on the forum, is nothing compared to what the body seems to need to restart the testes.

I'm bummed and not sure what is causing this. I had a vasectomy 14 years ago so I'm not wanting to get my wife pregnant. But, I would like to restart my system if possible so that the shut down hormones can be active again as I'm certain there are other benefits to having them operating.
 

wondering

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Consider 250 2x per week instead of EOD (may help keep E2 down) or instead of 100 units a day. Dr. Saya has a small sample size of data showing this provides improved sustained levels vs 100 a day.
 

bumpy

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Consider 250 2x per week instead of EOD (may help keep E2 down) or instead of 100 units a day. Dr. Saya has a small sample size of data showing this provides improved sustained levels vs 100 a day.
This right here. I was at 500 2x week. I dropped it to 250 2x per week and my libido shot through the roof. It was like night and day. Morning afternoon and evening wood. It’s ridiculous really and a big distraction however the alternative (no libido, ED, sensitivity issues etc) is not where I want to be.

My libido has never been this crazy. 500 iu week seems to be the PERFECT spot for me.
 

Gman86

Member
This right here. I was at 500 2x week. I dropped it to 250 2x per week and my libido shot through the roof. It was like night and day. Morning afternoon and evening wood. It’s ridiculous really and a big distraction however the alternative (no libido, ED, sensitivity issues etc) is not where I want to be.

My libido has never been this crazy. 500 iu week seems to be the PERFECT spot for me.
How long after u dropped ur dose did ur libido kick into gear?

Have u ever tried more frequent dosing with HCG?

What brand of HCG are u using?
 

bumpy

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How long after u dropped ur dose did ur libido kick into gear?

Have u ever tried more frequent dosing with HCG?

What brand of HCG are u using?
1 week it took. No I have not tried more frequent dosing. I dose the day before my injections and for some reason it is working extremely well. My penis and testicles are extremely full which I have never experienced with HCG until I lowered my dose.

I’m using HCG from Amino Depot (mods please delete if I’m not supposed to share).

By the way when I lowered my dose it is from the same vial I was using previously. So there’s no chance I got a “good batch” of HCG or any other variable that could attribute such a great response. Same brand, same vial.
 

Gman86

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1 week it took. No I have not tried more frequent dosing. I dose the day before my injections and for some reason it is working extremely well. My penis and testicles are extremely full which I have never experienced with HCG until I lowered my dose.

I’m using HCG from Amino Depot (mods please delete if I’m not supposed to share).

By the way when I lowered my dose it is from the same vial I was using previously. So there’s no chance I got a “good batch” of HCG or any other variable that could attribute such a great response. Same brand, same vial.
Awesome, ur anecdote has the potential to help A LOT of people trying to dial in things with HCG. What do u reconstitute it with, just generic bac water?
 

M.J

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I am trying to do the same now, 250 twice weekly, one day I injected 250 nothing happens but on the 3rd day libido came back again. I am doing 250 twice weekly still experimenting though.
 

JA Battle

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1 week it took. No I have not tried more frequent dosing. I dose the day before my injections and for some reason it is working extremely well. My penis and testicles are extremely full which I have never experienced with HCG until I lowered my dose.

I’m using HCG from Amino Depot (mods please delete if I’m not supposed to share).

By the way when I lowered my dose it is from the same vial I was using previously. So there’s no chance I got a “good batch” of HCG or any other variable that could attribute such a great response. Same brand, same vial.
Very interesting. I never did more than 250 and I was doing daily. 100-175 mostly. Never got much benefit. I’m also primary hypo. Maybe I needed more less frequently. Interesting your dosage drop equated to testes filling out. I ordered hcg through AA. Looking forward to trying.

im curious about trying like 200 IM every third day due to quicker peak and possibly slightly shorter half life.

this thread perked my curiousity on hcg again. Looking forward to updates.
 

M.J

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Although I increased my T to 100 weekly instead of 75. I injected 250 hcg this week along with my T and on 3rd and 4rd day again I had the same urge. I am reaching a conclusion that 500 seems to high with 250 I defiantly saw an improvement. Not yet there but at least there is some improvement.
 

M.J

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So just to follow up on this I have increased my testosterone dose to 100mg as I believe I will get a better range I don’t believe I would go higher. Drinking water helped a lot keeping my hematocrit in range I hope the increase from 75 to 100 won’t drive it high.
I am still. Experimenting with the 250 and couldn’t get the libido again. Will keep trying to see if I can get it again. Dear

I still need to do something as even with trt now I am not doing good trt ddi help a lot in many things but the ultimate goal libido and ER still unsolved.

yet cialis Is helping with the ER and morning wood, but with no libido it’s pointless.
 

JA Battle

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So just to follow up on this I have increased my testosterone dose to 100mg as I believe I will get a better range I don’t believe I would go higher. Drinking water helped a lot keeping my hematocrit in range I hope the increase from 75 to 100 won’t drive it high.
I am still. Experimenting with the 250 and couldn’t get the libido again. Will keep trying to see if I can get it again. Dear

I still need to do something as even with trt now I am not doing good trt ddi help a lot in many things but the ultimate goal libido and ER still unsolved.

yet cialis Is helping with the ER and morning wood, but with no libido it’s pointless.

I’m someone that has to keep test lower. I’ve never had good eq while on trt except for when my dose is low to create like 500-600 ng/dl. When my test numbers are this low my e2 is around 10pg/ml but at least eq improves.

libido has always been rather weak also.

I’m experimenting with

4mg test e daily
300iu hcg daily.

I will update with how it goes.
 

M.J

Active Member
3 days ago I injected 500 today morning I went to 150 and I got the urge for sex again :). I will try and see if I do daily I read in the forum that 150 is good only for one day.
 

Gman86

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3 days ago I injected 500 today morning I went to 150 and I got the urge for sex again :). I will try and see if I do daily I read in the forum that 150 is good only for one day.
So are u lowering ur overall HCG dose per week or just breaking up the same weekly dosage into daily injections?
 

M.J

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So are u lowering ur overall HCG dose per week or just breaking up the same weekly dosage into daily injections?
I am not really sure what to do, will try doing 150 hcg daily I read around 150 is only enough for one day there was a paper about it here and how 500 is good for 3 days.
I will try also lowering my prolactin maybe so this g will happen as my readings are slightly above high range one hour before my weekly injection
 

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