My Experience On Jatenzo (Oral TRT) Log

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Systemlord

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I finally tested my estrogen (while tapering off Cialis) and my results are slightly before 6, so 5 hours after morning dosage, 592 ng/dL and estrogen 18. Since tapering off Cialis my erections are harder.

I would always wake up with strong erections, but shortly after taking my Cialis erections would go softer. I will be retesting estrogen once I've been of Cialis for a time since its clearing causing side effects other than softer erections.
 
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Systemlord

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I performed an experiment today regarding my iron supplementation. Something has been nagging at me for some time now. I was diagnosed with an iron deficiency a year before I was diagnosed with vitamin D deficiency.

Supplementing iron didn't resolve all of my symptoms. Cialis treated most of these symptoms, but only for awhile, until my estrogen level dropped low.

Rewind to a year ago, I tried lowering my iron dosage 40% after starting vitamin D supplements and felt worse! So I went back to 152 mg iron and continued to have problems.

I've learned that whenever you supplementing something in excess, like iron, your body attempts to regulate serum levels by altering absorption rates. So by lowering my iron dosage, I was actually increasing my absorption rates which is why I felt worse after lowering my iron dosage.

Today I only took one capsule of iron today and 80% of the symptoms I had yesterday after taking 5.25 capsules of iron over the last year plus are gone.

Tomorrow I plan on stopping all iron supplementation, with the belief that once I started treating the vitamin D deficiency, vitamin D helps you absorb iron, among other things, I should have stopped the iron supplements altogether.

Today after taking the (28 mg iron) iron supplements, I only have dizziness and lightheadedness, whereas yesterday after taking 152 mg of iron, I have the above symptoms and some muscle weakness, slightly out of breath, abdominal cramping and sleepiness.
 
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Systemlord

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Today was the first day without iron supplementation in 3 years. The result compared to yesterday is clear.

Glucose was measured after drinking 9 ounces of orange juice, and two meals consisting of red meat and after a 1.5 hour gym session. The first glucose reading today was 97 mg/dL (non-fasting) without any iron supplements. The second reading yesterday measured at 136 mg/dL with one capsule of iron or 28 mg, the same results if I took 5.25 capsules of iron or 152 mg.

Yesterday I did take 400 IU D3 and today 600 IU D3, the latter makes me feel high and mentally slower, more subdued personality. 400 IU unleashes my personality and thought process is faster. The 600 IU D3 causes muscle pain in my back/shoulder area that gets progressively worse as I go above 600 IU D3.

My gym workout today was amazing, I crushed it, never before have I had a workout like this one!
 
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Systemlord

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This morning I took 400 IU D3 and immediately became nauseous, high, bone pain, some IBS and have concluded the reason for my iron deficiency originally was from the extreme daily and every other day cypionate injection protocols.

The excessive iron supplementation, all 152 mg, which I never really needed, expect if on a daily or every other day cypionate protocol, caused the vitamin D deficiency the first time around, and as my iron/ferritin levels climbed higher, no more phlebotomies, vitamin D deficiency occurred again that no amount of vitamin D supplementation could correct.

On Jatenzo, the peaks happen so quickly, within 2 hours, not prolonged like a daily cypionate protocol, and the levels achieved so brief that I'm utilizing a normal amount of iron. I find the longer I'm off the iron supplements, the less I'm able to tolerate even 400 IU D3.

I bought some eggs and hard boiled them, plenty of vitamin D and now my main source and soon lots of sunshine.
 
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This morning I took 400 IU D3 and immediately became nauseous, high, bone pain, some IBS and have concluded the reason for my iron deficiency originally was from the extreme daily and every other day cypionate injection protocols.

The excessive iron supplementation, all 152 mg, which I never really needed, expect if on a daily or every other day cypionate protocol, caused the vitamin D deficiency the first time around, and as my iron/ferritin levels climbed higher, no more phlebotomies, vitamin D deficiency occurred again that no amount of vitamin D supplementation could correct.

On Jatenzo, the peaks happen so quickly, within 2 hours, not prolonged like a daily cypionate protocol, and the levels achieved so brief that I'm utilizing a normal amount of iron. I find the longer I'm off the iron supplements, the less I'm able to tolerate even 400 IU D3.

I bought some eggs and hard boiled them, plenty of vitamin D and now my main source and soon lots of sunshine.
Did you take the vit d on empty stomach or together with a meal?
 

Systemlord

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Did you take the vit d on empty stomach or together with a meal?
I take vitamin D3 on an empty stomach, then I eat about 30 minutes later.

My vitamin D levels at the time of my low-T and type 2 diabetes diagnosis was 25 after having spent 10 months indoors.

In 2019 when I was off TRT for 8 months, I was taking 2000 IU D3 for months without problems, then I went back on TRT and started iron supplements and that's when I started having problems with low dose vitamin D supplements.

Maybe my iron/ferritin levels will decrease after stopping iron supplements and I'll be able to handle more vitamin D.
 
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