Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, Pregnenolone and DHEA – By Gene Devine

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Gene Devine

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Below is a paper I've written after much research and study on why men need HCG, Pregnenolone and DHEA while on a Testosterone Replacement Protocol. I have known men who have printed this out and given to their Physician who would not prescribe HCG but after reading this agreed to prescribing it. It's an easy read and very informative and if you are not on HCG as part of your TRT protocol this may go to help you understand why it is important for your overall health and well-being.

Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, Pregnenelone, and DHEA By Gene Devine
When a man introduces Testosterone exogenously it significantly changes how the Hypothalamus(H), Pituitary(P) and Testicle(T) glands react to each other in keeping men's androgenic hormones in balance. Many of our hormones act in a cascading event and the axis between these three glands are no different.

When T levels are low in a normal healthy man the Hypothalamus releases a "releasing" hormone (LHRH) that tells the Pituitary to release another hormone known as Luteinizing Hormone (LH). In turn, LH reaches the receptors on the Leydig cells within the testicles telling them to do their thing among which is the production of Pregnenolone from Cholesterol, Sperm, and Testosterone among other things needed downstream in all hormonal pathways.

Exogenous Testosterone halts the HPT Axis (HPTA) and as such the testicles are no longer receiving LH. This is know by most of us as simply "shutdown" or "HPTA suppression."

In order for men on a TRT protocol where they are in a state of shutdown/suppression to make up for the lost production of LH they will need add hCG to their protocol which is a bioidentical form of LH (LH Analog).

hCG (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_c...c_gonadotropin) is a water-based peptide hormone that can only be injected to replace the lost LH hormone that a TRT protocol shuts down. There are "so called" oral forms of hCG that some men are placed on, or purchased from other sources, but from all that I read it's not possible to injest hCG and get it past the liver to make its efficacy plausible. Recently, oral micronized verions of hCG are available by prescription and have shown to be a successful alternative to injections for some men...talk to your Doctor.

So what happens when a man testicles don't function anymore do to the lack of LH?

The Biggie: Testicular Atrophy. Men will see their testes get smaller over time and hurt constantly along the way. The duration for this event seems to be different in men where younger guys can seem to go longer where mid to older guys see the event happens on a more accelerated scale. Some think it happens to do with the amount of receptors on the Leydig cells...but who really knows.

Sperm production is pretty much halted.

Men's scrotum's will get really tight and pull up against the body causing pain and end up looking like a 5 year old.

The testes are the single largest producer of the hormone Pregnenolone; the mother of all hormones (http://www.antiaging-systems.com/165...one-metabolite) We need Pregnenolone for so many reasons (read the link here) and while it can be supplemented it's hit or miss on how effective supplementation can be for some men.


Why we need hCG:
1. IMPORTANT: To produce Pregnenolone; hCG activates the p450 side chain cleavage (p450scc) enzyme which converts cholesterol to Pregnenolone!!! (Read the link above, please.)
2. To produce the precursors for DHEA, Estrogen, Cortisol, Testosterone and DHT...back filling the pathways (See #1 above)
3. For proper and normal brain function
4. For proper functioning of the testicles
5. If men ever want to restart
6. If men ever want to have children
7. If men don't want balls that end up in a small mass of useless Collagen
8. The list goes on...

In short, hCG keeps the testicles functioning in a normal state and supports all three metabolic pathways. It prevents Pregnenelone deficiency and supporting all our other CHOL pathways and hormones as well.

As we've all seen first hand in this community; when a man on a TRT protocol is not on hCG they complain of the shrinking testicle and the accompanying pain that goes with it.

But when they start on hCG (because of all the things listed above and more) they all state how much better they feel and the pain associated with their testicular atrophy subsiding and that their testicles feel much better as well.

Does a man need hCG on a TRT protocol?

Nope.

But for all the reasons above a man should be made aware of why hCG and Human chorionic gonadotropin are important to their health and well being on a life long journey of TRT.

The efficacy for hCG for both Primary and Secondary Hypogonadism has been documented. For those whose Doctor refuses to prescribe HCG as part of your TRT protocol print this study abstract and force them to read it:
-It reduces cardiovascular risks by increasing lipolysis (decrease visceral fat).

-It stimulates the immune system, restores sexual vitality, improves moods, decreases cholesterol and body fat.
-It improves memory, increases energy, and has anti-cancer properties by enhancing the immune system.
-It is an endocrine precursor to other hormones, prevents immuno-senescence, loss of sleep, osteoporosis, atherosclerosis.
-DHEA reduces insulin requirement
-Adrenal hormone anabolic vs. catabolic metabolism
-Restores immunity
-Prevents osteoporosis, increases bone density
-Prevents cancer in lab animals
-Prevents diabetes & heart disease
-Decreases visceral fat
-Improves mood & well-being
-Improves energy & memory
-Slows aging process in lab animals
-Prevents lipid peroxidation = antioxidant
-Endocrine precursor to T.P.E.
-7-keto DHEA is not a precursor to other HRT = avoid
-Neurotransmitter (recently discovered)
-Presently pending FDA approval for Lupus (Prasterone)

Clinically substantiated uses of DHEA include replacement for:
-Low DHEA levels
-Chronic disease
-Adrenal exhaustion or corticosteroid therapy
-SLE
-Improving bone density
-Improving depression & mood disorders
-Enhancing immune response by activating T-cells
-Improving well-being
-Decreasing cardiovascular risk
-Improving erectile dysfunction
-Anyone over 40
-DHEA has never been shown to reverse the aging process
-Nevertheless DHEA is important for preventive medicine
-DHEA inhibits synthesis of thromboxane A2, reduces plasminogen activator inhibitor, and tissue plasminogen activator, all decreasing platelet aggregation and ischemia.


Tung-Chin Hsieh, Alexander W. Pastuszak, Kathleen Hwang and Larry I. Lipshultz*,†
From the Division of Urology, University of California-San Diego (TCH), San Diego, California, Scott Department of Urology, Baylor College of Medicine (AWP, LIL), Houston, Texas, and Department of Urology (KH), Brown University School of Medicine, Providence, Rhode Island

Purpose: Testosterone replacement therapy results in decreased serum gonadotropins and intratesticular testosterone , and impairs spermatogenesis, leading to azoospermia in 40% of patients. However, intratesticular testosterone can be maintained during testosterone replacement therapy with co-administration of low dose human chorionic gonadotropin , which may support continued spermatogenesis in patients on testosterone replacement therapy.

Materials and Methods: We retrospectively reviewed the records of hypogonadal men treated with testosterone replacement therapy and concomitant low dose human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG ). Testosterone replacement consisted of daily topical gel or weekly intramuscular injection with intramuscular human chorionic gonadotropin (500 IU) every other day. Serum and free testosterone, estradiol, semen parameters and pregnancy rates were evaluated before and during therapy.

Results: A total of 26 men with a mean age of 35.9 years were included in the study. Mean followup was 6.2 months. Of the men 19 were treated with injectable testosterone and 7 were treated with transdermal gel. Mean serum hormone levels before vs during treatment were testosterone 207.2 vs 1,055.5 ng/dl (p <0.0001), free testosterone 8.1 vs 20.4 pg/ml (p = 0.02) and estradiol 2.2 vs 3.7 pg/ml (p = 0.11). Pretreatment semen parameters were volume 2.9 ml, density 35.2 million per ml, motility 49.0% and forward progression 2.3. No differences in semen parameters were observed during greater than 1 year of followup. No impact on semen parameters was observed as a function of testosterone formulation. No patient became azoospermic during concomitant testosterone replacement and human chorionic gonadotropin therapy. Nine of 26 men contributed to pregnancy with the partner during follow-up.

Conclusions: Low dose human chorionic gonadotropin appears to maintain semen parameters in hypogonadal men on testosterone replacement therapy. Concurrent testosterone replacement and human chorionic gonadotropin use may preserve fertility in hypogonadal males who desire fertility preservation while on testosterone replacement therapy.

hCG Injection Protocols
Let's start by saying that there are no hard and fast rules for hCG injection protocols. There are a number of well known Physicians who have recommendations and prescribe based on their experience with patient's subjective responses to treatment and subsequent serum levels. There are other variables as well that need to be taking into consideration when contemplating hCG injection protocols like whether or not the man is Primary or Secondary Hypogonadal can determine hCG injection protocols.

That being said, there are a number of hCG injection protocols that appear more commonly and are based on Testosterone injection frequency and or the use of a cream or gel.

Note: It's not advisable to inject more then 500iu's of hCG in any 24 hour period as it can increase intratesticular E2 which an AI is largely ineffective in controlling. Additionally, there is a theory that large amounts of hCG may desensitize the receptors on the lydeg cells.

Once a Week Testosterone Injection Protocols
If a man injects Testosterone on a once a week basis the more common protocol is to use 250IU of hCG two days before and one day before their next testosterone injection. The theory here is that Testosterone serum levels are at near half life and the injection of hCG on these days increase natural production creating a bridge until the next testosterone injection.

Twice a Week Testosterone Injections
If a man injects twice a week similar to an every 3.5 day schedule the more common protocol are smaller doses more frequently. It's not uncommon to see men inject 250IU of hCG on an EOD basis or on a Monday-Wednesday-Friday protocol.

Cream or Gel Daily Use
If a man uses a Cream and/or Gel some of the top Testosterone Replacement Physicians, like Dr. John Crisler, recommend patients use 100iu of hCG every day.

hCG Injections
Injecting hCG prevents a drug induced Human chorionic gonadotropin deficiency and helps support the other androgen pathways as well. When men are on a TRT protocol without hCG and then add in hCG many report a significant improvement in mood that many attribute to restored Human chorionic gonadotropin levels.

When injecting hCG, you inject into the fat under the skin just the same as diabetics inject insulin. The product literature is all about use a fertility drug for women with large IM [injected into muscle] doses. There is no need for men to inject hCG IM.
Research using SC injections in men has demonstrated the effectiveness of the 250 iu EOD dosing. You can seek diabetic patient educational material for insulin injection techniques to use for hCG and/or testosterone injections.

Pregnenolone - Why You Need It
Pregnenolone is a hormone that many Doctors and men are not familiar with or understand it's role in the CHOL pathways but it's critically important to our health as it is a "precursor hormone" to all other hormones. Restoring Pregnenolone to optimal levels is important but seems to get the least attention by Doctors. Remember, the testes are the single largest producer of the hormone Pregnenolone. Pregnenolone is important for proper mental functioning and is the precursor to all of the steroid hormones found in the three CHOL pathways such as DHEA, testosterone, DHT, estrogen, cortisol...

So what are the benefits of Pregnenolone?
In our bodies Pregnenolone is manufactured by cholesterol (CHOL). The hormone performs many functions in a man's body, including:
Promotes healthy brain function and protects against dementia and Alzheimer's disease. Many men state feeling good when they start supplementing Human chorionic gonadotropin.

It can also prevent age-related diseases and support the Central Nervous System (CNS).
Boosts the immune system and increases energy production.
Protects against coronary disease and improves heart health and can lower cholesterol levels.
Enhances mood and relieves depression. Many men state their mood betters when they start supplementation.
Relieves arthritis pain!
Fights the effects of fatigue and stress.

The optimal serum levels for Pregnenelone is 180 ng/dl for men. Pregnenolone can be purchased over the counter in a pill (micronized slow release is the best for pills) or sublingual form in addition to transdermal creams. A typical dose is 50 to 200 mg daily best taken in the morning on an empty stomach (cream applied in the morning as well). Pregnenolone is considered safe and because is converts to DHEA which leads to other hormones it's best to get your Pregnenolone levels tested before supplementing.

DHEA Supplementation
Dehydroepiandrosterone: DHEA
As presented by Dr. Neal Rouzier, M.D.


Here's a great reason to add DHEA to your protocol.
DHEA is a hormone secreted primarily by the adrenal glands. It results in a shift of a catabolic state to an anabolic or protein building state.



Administration:
Men<200lb: 50mg AM
Men>200lb: 75-100mg AM
Women <50yo: 10-15mg AM
Women >50yo: 25mg AM

IMPORTANT:

DHEA Serum Levels
MEN
- Range 100-600
- Optimal 500-600

WOMEN
- Range 50-300
- Optimal 200-250
Higher levels in women predispose them to side effects &#8211; therefore stay low

-Monitor monthly until optimal
-Assure correct dose and compliance
-Measure DHEA-S and not DHEA
-Side effects: acne, hirsutism
-Tx: Lower dose or take QOD Spironolactone 100 mg/day
-Contraindicated in sex hormone responsive tumors &#8211; breast, ovarian, uterine, prostate
-Conversion to T.P.E.?
-DHEA raises testosterone levels in women slightly, yet not in men
-DHEA raises estradiol slightly in men

Indications:
- Over age 40 for health protection
- Preventive medicine and well-being
- Symptoms of aging, mood & depression

DHEA &#8211; S04-MEN Blood levels
- Optimal : 500-600 ug/ml
- Side effects rare in men
WOMEN
- Optimal : 200-250 ug/ml
- Dose based on side effects
- Side effects very common in women
DHEA Dose-MEN
- Capsule &#8211; SR micronized
- 50 mg Q am
- >200 lbs &#8211; 75 - 100 mg Q am

WOMEN- Capsule SR micronized
- 10 mg Q am if over 40
- 15 mg Q am if over 50
- 25 mg Q am if over 60
- If under age 40, do not prescribe due to sensitivity causing side effects.
 
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paco

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Thank you, Gene, as always for your insight. A couple of brief notes...

The section on Pregnenolone is a bit confusing as it seems that references to HCG have somehow replaced what should be references to Pregnenolone.

Also, did you mean to refer to an LH deficiency in the following? "Injecting hCG prevents a drug induced Human chorionic gonadotropin deficiency..."
 

BigJohn

Member
Thanks Gene, I'm taking this to my doctor soon. I'm not sure he's familiar with HCG when it relates to HRT. Also, is HCG available any other way than injections? Also you state daily is that the only way?
 
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Gene Devine

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Thanks Gene, I'm taking this to my doctor soon. I'm not sure he's familiar with HCG when it relates to HRT. Also, is HCG available any other way than injections? Also you state daily is that the only way?

HCG can only be injected to get into the bloodstream and nothing else.

Don't believe the diet sites that you can take it orally, you can't. The HCG molecules are too big and can only enter the bloodstream through a tiny insulin needle injected into a fat pad.

I like daily low doses of HCG. This provides for consistent serum levels much like our bodies in a normal state. It also reduces the chances of receptor desensitization and increase intratesticular estrogen levels which an AI is largely ineffective in controlling.

It works for me, but as the paper notes, there are other injection protocols that work as well.

To each his own...
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
Thank you, Gene, as always for your insight. A couple of brief notes...

The section on Pregnenolone is a bit confusing as it seems that references to HCG have somehow replaced what should be references to Pregnenolone.

Also, did you mean to refer to an LH deficiency in the following? "Injecting hCG prevents a drug induced Human chorionic gonadotropin deficiency..."


Fixed it.

Odd, because my original paper didn't have this error.

Thanks for finding paco!
 

bruin

Member
Great paper, took this to my (new) Dr, he declines to prescribe HCG. My existing Dr. will prescribe, but is charging and astronomical fee. What to do? Ask Dr. # 2 for the rx, and get it filled elsewhere ?
 

Gene Devine

Super Moderator
I have been on HCG for more then 4 years and from the very start of my TRT protocol.

My Doc is a HRT Physician and is one of the best so he knows how critical HCG is when a man is HPTA suppressed.

One cannot believe the shutting down hormones like LH and it not have a negative effect on the body as the paper states.

HCG as an LH analog does much much more then just keep your testes alive when you HPTA suppressed.

Men have LH receptors throughout their bodies, including the brain, and they are there for a reason...what do you think happens when those receptors are not activated.

Read in the paper how HCG activates the P450 side chain cleavage and that alone is why men need HCG.
 

LVJR

New Member
Gene,

Is your Dr based in the South Florida area? Does he accept insurance and see out of state clients?

Thanks
LV
 
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