Will 80 mg/week be enough + choice of needles

Hi,

Finally going back to injections after messing with gels for some month..

I can only use Testviron depot 250 mg (Europe standard) which I will divide in three parts of 80 mg for weekly shots. What test levels can I expect more or less with only 80mg/week 600-700? Or? Is there a way to know this more or less without having to draw blood?
I think maybe it will be easier to self- inject test into the thighs. Therefor I have a question reg the size of needles to inject it that area. I have two choices: 23 gauge 1" and 25 gauge 5/8"

My upper legs are rather slim or at least not fatty

Appreciate any suggestion.

Tommy
 
80 mg per week may not be enough for some men to go above 600 ng/dL of total testosterone. 100 mg is more like it.

23 and 25 gauge needles are Ok for injecting in buttocks. I am think injecting into thighs is too risky. I use my shoulders now after using my glutes for 20 years.
 
OK thx for your opinion. Maybe I shold consider the shoulder as well. Injecting in the shoulder shouldn´t 25 gauge 5/8" be enough?

Why do think is risky to inject in the thigh?

Thx for answering!
 
Tommy I agree with Nelson, I predominantly inject my T in my upper glute but I do rotate around. I had never used my shoulder until I watched Nelson's video and it became the site of choice...... I also inject B Complex 100mg 3x week which for myself is a more painful injection so I predominately reserve the shoulder for that injection and its much easier.

Nelson, I haven't switch to Hcg/ T combo yet. I still inject hcg the day before. I've only been on Hcg for about 6 weeks. HCG has been added benefit but I have noticed no or very little improvement toward reversing atrophy.I just turned 51and realize it may take more time being 50 to be effective, but I saw someone post that once they switched to combo injection it increased thier success in reversing atrophy. I plan on talking with Dr. Saya for some insight on having little reversal yet and followup.
 
@Robbie.......Im a couple of years older than you and on HCG for about 3 months, not intending to hijack this thread but you made a couple of comments. I have noticed little to none physical change in testicles as in regaining size or firmness. I do notice an overall improvement in sexual performance, and penile sensitivity

Duane
 
That combo injection showed in Nelson´s video looks as a smart and good choice!

I read somewhere that injecting into the thigh muscle would mean that less Estradiol is being produced. But no evidence of that so far as I know.
 

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