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What is the reason that nandrolone causes depression? (Mechanism of action)
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<blockquote data-quote="Gman86" data-source="post: 267648" data-attributes="member: 15043"><p>I know that DHT derivatives can sometimes help when using a test base with some nandrolone, and experiencing mood and sexual sides. I’m not sure the exact mechanism that’s in play here. My guess it’s a few. Im thinking it’s due to a combination of DHT derivatives like primo, mast and/ or Proviron not only lowering E2 and prolactin, but possibly also due to the fact that the DHN from nandrolone can inhibit the effects of DHT in the system, and maybe that can cause an issue for some, and using a DHT derivative can increase some of benefits that actual DHT offers. That last part could be a stretch, but just brainstorming here</p><p></p><p>Here’s a couple anecdotes of guys implementing DHT derivatives with a test base and some nandrolone. I have more saved somewhere, just have to find them </p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?members/gains4000.222342/" target="_blank">gains4000</a></p><p>Well-known member Registered </p><p>-its great to add in some proviron or masteron since nandrolone does block DHT conversion and increase Estrogen receptor sensitivity. DHT is highly androgenic and anti Estrogenic hormone. DHN is 10x weaker than DHT at the AR and can really mess up with androgen to estrogen ratio. FWIW i see a lot of veteran bodybuilders always add masteron to a test Deca cycle.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><table class='post-table ' style='width: 100%'><tr><td ><p><br /> <a href="https://www.reddit.com/user/%5Bdeleted%5D/" target="_blank">[deleted]</a><br /> 3y</p></td><td></td></tr></table>Using Masteron completely eliminated any Deca dick for me at just 300mg Mast E. I mean rock hard wood all damn day. With like 500 NPP</p><p>Weird it didn't work for you. I was only on TRT test</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/members/b88f.127515/" target="_blank">B88F</a></p><p><a href="https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/threads/npp-vs-deca-sides-and-experiences.366810/post-6865707" target="_blank">Sep 27, 2022</a></p><p><a href="https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/goto/post?id=6865706" target="_blank">train2win said:</a></p><p>-Well ever since i started incorporating mast with deca i never had a libido issue, i just run the mast at whatever dose i'm running the deca at and i'm actually fooking horny as a bastard doing it that way, even more so then on test and mast alone for some strange reason, the only issue i get with deca is the inability to bust a nut well in to the cycle, clearly its a prolactin issue, but i hate caber so just wondering with npp not building up like deca does maybe it won't effect prolactin quite as much!?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><a href="https://forums.steroid.com/members/sampsonanddelilah-93040.html" target="_blank">SampsonandDelilah</a> </p><p>Knowledgeable Member</p><p>-Extremely reasonable - I like to run the test higher to compensate for the suppression. What I had deca in my protocol I ran it at 100 and test at 200. Loved it. Also ran 50 mgs of <a href="http://www.steroid.com/Proviron.php" target="_blank">proviron</a> as well which I would recommend to anyone using <a href="http://www.steroid.com/Deca.php" target="_blank">nandrolone</a> or experiencing ED. If you’re looking for a TRT cruise compound, hard to beat proviron in my opinion</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gman86, post: 267648, member: 15043"] I know that DHT derivatives can sometimes help when using a test base with some nandrolone, and experiencing mood and sexual sides. I’m not sure the exact mechanism that’s in play here. My guess it’s a few. Im thinking it’s due to a combination of DHT derivatives like primo, mast and/ or Proviron not only lowering E2 and prolactin, but possibly also due to the fact that the DHN from nandrolone can inhibit the effects of DHT in the system, and maybe that can cause an issue for some, and using a DHT derivative can increase some of benefits that actual DHT offers. That last part could be a stretch, but just brainstorming here Here’s a couple anecdotes of guys implementing DHT derivatives with a test base and some nandrolone. I have more saved somewhere, just have to find them [URL='https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?members/gains4000.222342/']gains4000[/URL] Well-known member Registered -its great to add in some proviron or masteron since nandrolone does block DHT conversion and increase Estrogen receptor sensitivity. DHT is highly androgenic and anti Estrogenic hormone. DHN is 10x weaker than DHT at the AR and can really mess up with androgen to estrogen ratio. FWIW i see a lot of veteran bodybuilders always add masteron to a test Deca cycle. [TABLE][TR][TD] [URL='https://www.reddit.com/user/%5Bdeleted%5D/'][deleted][/URL] 3y [/TD] [TD] [/TD][/TR][/TABLE] Using Masteron completely eliminated any Deca dick for me at just 300mg Mast E. I mean rock hard wood all damn day. With like 500 NPP Weird it didn't work for you. I was only on TRT test [URL='https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/members/b88f.127515/']B88F[/URL] [URL='https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/threads/npp-vs-deca-sides-and-experiences.366810/post-6865707']Sep 27, 2022[/URL] [URL='https://www.uk-muscle.co.uk/goto/post?id=6865706']train2win said:[/URL] -Well ever since i started incorporating mast with deca i never had a libido issue, i just run the mast at whatever dose i'm running the deca at and i'm actually fooking horny as a bastard doing it that way, even more so then on test and mast alone for some strange reason, the only issue i get with deca is the inability to bust a nut well in to the cycle, clearly its a prolactin issue, but i hate caber so just wondering with npp not building up like deca does maybe it won't effect prolactin quite as much!? [URL='https://forums.steroid.com/members/sampsonanddelilah-93040.html']SampsonandDelilah[/URL] Knowledgeable Member -Extremely reasonable - I like to run the test higher to compensate for the suppression. What I had deca in my protocol I ran it at 100 and test at 200. Loved it. Also ran 50 mgs of [URL='http://www.steroid.com/Proviron.php']proviron[/URL] as well which I would recommend to anyone using [URL='http://www.steroid.com/Deca.php']nandrolone[/URL] or experiencing ED. If you’re looking for a TRT cruise compound, hard to beat proviron in my opinion [/QUOTE]
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