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UPDATE 6 WK ON TRT - Please advise and share wisdom.
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 206398" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p><strong>Summarizing My TRT so far- mostly for my own clarity:</strong></p><p></p><p><em><strong>JUNE 18th:</strong></em></p><p><strong><em>Started <u>70mg TE+Vit D compound q M/Th. 350hcg Q Tu/Fr + 0.5mg AI q wk -- x 2wk then LOWERED due to insomnia and anxiety</u></em></strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>JULY 5th:</strong></p><p><strong>LOWERED DOSE to <u>50mg TE+Vit D compound </u>q M/Th. Ancillaries same as above.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>JULY 23 -- LABS 5wk total on TRT at this point -- see OP above.</strong></p><p></p><p>Forget the 5 weeks as this all means nothing!</p><p></p><p>Your starting trt protocol 140 mg T/week split (70 mg twice weekly) was only for 2 weeks.</p><p></p><p>Then you went and lowered your dose on July 5th to 100 mg T/week split (50 mg twice weekly).</p><p></p><p>Labs were then done July 23 which would have only been roughly 3 weeks (not 5) on the current protocol.....way too soon!</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>JULY 26th:</strong></p><p><strong>Started <u>daily 14mg</u> as above. <u>X7d only</u>.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong>AUG 2:</strong></p><p><strong>**<u>I am back on the 50mg Test Enanthate+10000iu vit D compound q M/F </u>and 350iu HCG qT/Th. No AI.</strong></p><p><strong></strong></p><p><strong><em>AUG 9: At this point Ive been on <u>TRT for almost 8wk</u>. <u>Albeit with VARIATIONS IN PROTOCOLS AND DOSES</u></em></strong> <strong><em>but never below 100mg within 7d, really except for 1wk at 14mg/d was never below 100mg within the 4.5d half life of TE.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>July 26.....3 days later you do a complete 360 and hop on dailies using roughly the same weekly dose of T (98 mg/week) split daily let alone remain on such protocol for only 7 days then bail and do another 360 only to end up back on 100mg T/week split into twice-weekly injections (50 mg every 3.5 days).</p><p></p><p>You need to pick a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) and stick with it.</p><p></p><p>The protocol needs to be consistent week after week!</p><p></p><p>Blood work is only done when blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks).....most would wait for 6.</p><p></p><p>We want to see how your body reacts to <u>testosterone only</u> and where said protocol (dose T/injection frequency) has your TT, FT, estradiol, SHBG let alone other blood health markers.</p><p></p><p>Any time you start tweaking a protocol which unfortunately you have done numerous times (within the first 8 weeks) you will need to start over again as blood levels will take 4-6 weeks to stabilize.</p><p></p><p>The only sensible thing you had done during those 8 weeks was dropping the AI on Aug 2!</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>AUG 2:</strong></p><p><strong>**<u>I am back on the 50mg Test Enanthate+10000iu vit D compound q M/F </u>and 350iu HCG qT/Th. No AI.</strong></p><p></p><p>Now you will need to stay on this protocol and wait another 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize then have your blood work done.</p><p></p><p>Even then if you achieve a healthy trough TT/FT level then you will need to give the protocol another 2 months to gauge how you truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms and overall well-being.</p><p></p><p>Every protocol needs to be given a fighting chance.....12 weeks before tweaking dose/injection frequency.</p><p></p><p>If you keep changing protocols every few weeks let alone at 6 weeks you are in for a world of hurt.</p><p></p><p>Again T levels will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized and during this time it is common for many to experience ups/downs as the body is trying to adjust.</p><p></p><p>Once blood levels have stabilize it will take another 2 months for the body to fully adapt.</p><p></p><p></p><p><strong>Q1.1: Do I just shut up, <u>suck it up and change NOTHING and retest in 8wk</u>? OR is there merit and a scientifically appropriate way to tune the protocol during this time -- assuming Im fine with any frequency of labs and injections?Knowing Ive basically been on 100mg or more for that last 8wk.</strong></p><p></p><p>Most definitely!</p><p></p><p>If by chance at the 6-week mark when blood work is done your trough T levels are too low (highly doubtful) or too high (could very well be) let alone you were experiencing negative symptoms due to such then the protocol may need to be tweaked.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 206398, member: 13851"] [B]Summarizing My TRT so far- mostly for my own clarity:[/B] [I][B]JUNE 18th:[/B][/I] [B][I]Started [U]70mg TE+Vit D compound q M/Th. 350hcg Q Tu/Fr + 0.5mg AI q wk -- x 2wk then LOWERED due to insomnia and anxiety[/U][/I] JULY 5th: LOWERED DOSE to [U]50mg TE+Vit D compound [/U]q M/Th. Ancillaries same as above. JULY 23 -- LABS 5wk total on TRT at this point -- see OP above.[/B] Forget the 5 weeks as this all means nothing! Your starting trt protocol 140 mg T/week split (70 mg twice weekly) was only for 2 weeks. Then you went and lowered your dose on July 5th to 100 mg T/week split (50 mg twice weekly). Labs were then done July 23 which would have only been roughly 3 weeks (not 5) on the current protocol.....way too soon! [B]JULY 26th: Started [U]daily 14mg[/U] as above. [U]X7d only[/U]. AUG 2: **[U]I am back on the 50mg Test Enanthate+10000iu vit D compound q M/F [/U]and 350iu HCG qT/Th. No AI. [I]AUG 9: At this point Ive been on [U]TRT for almost 8wk[/U]. [U]Albeit with VARIATIONS IN PROTOCOLS AND DOSES[/U][/I][/B] [B][I]but never below 100mg within 7d, really except for 1wk at 14mg/d was never below 100mg within the 4.5d half life of TE.[/I][/B] July 26.....3 days later you do a complete 360 and hop on dailies using roughly the same weekly dose of T (98 mg/week) split daily let alone remain on such protocol for only 7 days then bail and do another 360 only to end up back on 100mg T/week split into twice-weekly injections (50 mg every 3.5 days). You need to pick a protocol (dose T/injection frequency) and stick with it. The protocol needs to be consistent week after week! Blood work is only done when blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks).....most would wait for 6. We want to see how your body reacts to [U]testosterone only[/U] and where said protocol (dose T/injection frequency) has your TT, FT, estradiol, SHBG let alone other blood health markers. Any time you start tweaking a protocol which unfortunately you have done numerous times (within the first 8 weeks) you will need to start over again as blood levels will take 4-6 weeks to stabilize. The only sensible thing you had done during those 8 weeks was dropping the AI on Aug 2! [B]AUG 2: **[U]I am back on the 50mg Test Enanthate+10000iu vit D compound q M/F [/U]and 350iu HCG qT/Th. No AI.[/B] Now you will need to stay on this protocol and wait another 4-6 weeks for blood levels to stabilize then have your blood work done. Even then if you achieve a healthy trough TT/FT level then you will need to give the protocol another 2 months to gauge how you truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-t symptoms and overall well-being. Every protocol needs to be given a fighting chance.....12 weeks before tweaking dose/injection frequency. If you keep changing protocols every few weeks let alone at 6 weeks you are in for a world of hurt. Again T levels will be in flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized and during this time it is common for many to experience ups/downs as the body is trying to adjust. Once blood levels have stabilize it will take another 2 months for the body to fully adapt. [B]Q1.1: Do I just shut up, [U]suck it up and change NOTHING and retest in 8wk[/U]? OR is there merit and a scientifically appropriate way to tune the protocol during this time -- assuming Im fine with any frequency of labs and injections?Knowing Ive basically been on 100mg or more for that last 8wk.[/B] Most definitely! If by chance at the 6-week mark when blood work is done your trough T levels are too low (highly doubtful) or too high (could very well be) let alone you were experiencing negative symptoms due to such then the protocol may need to be tweaked. [/QUOTE]
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