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UPDATE 6 WK ON TRT - Please advise and share wisdom.
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<blockquote data-quote="BUD987" data-source="post: 206370" data-attributes="member: 42714"><p>I dont want to take advantage of the forum members' time with my questions. Thank you for your insights. This is tough going unfortunately and I wish my progress was more linear and stable. [USER=38109]@Cataceous[/USER] [USER=15832]@Systemlord[/USER] [USER=13851]@madman[/USER].</p><p></p><p>I was on the daily protocol x7d only. Back to 50 TE+vitD q M/F.</p><p></p><p>Summarizing My TRT so far- mostly for my own clarity:</p><p></p><p>JUNE 18th:</p><p>Started <u>70mg TE+Vit D compound</u> q M/Th. 350hcg Q Tu/Fr + 0.5mg AI q wk -- x 2wk then lowered due to insomnia and anxiety</p><p></p><p>JULY 5th:</p><p>Lowered dose to <u>50mg TE+Vit D compound </u>q M/Th. Ancillaries same as above.</p><p></p><p>JULY 23 -- LABS 5wk total on TRT at this point -- see OP above.</p><p></p><p>JULY 26th:</p><p>Started <u>daily 14mg</u> as above. <u>X7d only</u>.</p><p></p><p>AUG 2:</p><p>**<u>I am back on the 50mg Test Enanthate+10000iu vit D compound q M/F </u>and 350iu HCG qT/Th. No AI.</p><p></p><p>AUG 9: At this point Ive been on TRT for almost 8wk. Albeit with variations in protocols and doses but never below 100mg within 7d, really except for 1wk at 14mg/d was never below 100mg within the 4.5d half life of TE.</p><p></p><p>I have scheduled a consult W/ Dr Saya for further insight and a 2nd opinion as well.</p><p></p><p><u>Questions for the forum:</u></p><p></p><p>1: If anything I feel slightly better, less 'agitated' and less hormonally unstable during my 'trough' than peak at 12-24h or so after my 50mg injection. Per the discussion above, my peak on my current 50mg biw protocol is likely supraphysiological [1200+] TT. My trough at 4d, with a 4.5d half life of TE, was around 712.</p><p></p><p>Q1.1: Do I just shut up, suck it up and change NOTHING and retest in 8wk? OR is there merit and a scientifically appropriate way to tune the protocol during this time -- assuming Im fine with any frequency of labs and injections?Knowing Ive basically been on 100mg or more for that last 8wk.</p><p></p><p>Q1.2: OR is there a good chance Ill feel less activated and more hormonally balanced with 30mg M/W/F? -- and then just stick to that for 8wk and retest?</p><p>Intuitively I feel less T is more comfortable given my above numbers BUT logically and anecdotally I have no clue.</p><p></p><p>2: Subjectively, yes I feel like crap. Cold, retracted penis/scrotum -- like I had on occasion prior to TRT. Weak/Little to no morning erections. Inconsistent emotional resilience - ie bitchy, moody, tired. Peeing more/less tolerance to full bladder.</p><p></p><p>Q2.1: ?Related to HIGH E2 spikes secondary to my supra-physiological Peaks on current protocol, as members posited above?</p><p></p><p>Q3.1: An underlying, deep concern is that my previous propecia use will permanently affect my ability to benefit from TRT. Experience and insights from prop users who TRT helped?</p><p></p><p>Q4.1: Any possible benefit to changing to a non compounded Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate? Ie: One from a Walgreens and WITHOUT the VitD?</p><p>My pharmacy currently is Hallandale. Any experiences? I have seen members that prefer one ester over the other. Further experience appreciated.</p><p></p><p>5: The HCG is for fertility maintenance:</p><p>I have a sperm bank/analysis coming next week. If viable I will bank. IF not, then that's a whole other can of worms. As I was viable prior to TRT.</p><p>Q5.1 : Does my current protocol of 350iu biw have ANYTHING to do with the fact that Im feeling crappy/unbalanced?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BUD987, post: 206370, member: 42714"] I dont want to take advantage of the forum members' time with my questions. Thank you for your insights. This is tough going unfortunately and I wish my progress was more linear and stable. [USER=38109]@Cataceous[/USER] [USER=15832]@Systemlord[/USER] [USER=13851]@madman[/USER]. I was on the daily protocol x7d only. Back to 50 TE+vitD q M/F. Summarizing My TRT so far- mostly for my own clarity: JUNE 18th: Started [U]70mg TE+Vit D compound[/U] q M/Th. 350hcg Q Tu/Fr + 0.5mg AI q wk -- x 2wk then lowered due to insomnia and anxiety JULY 5th: Lowered dose to [U]50mg TE+Vit D compound [/U]q M/Th. Ancillaries same as above. JULY 23 -- LABS 5wk total on TRT at this point -- see OP above. JULY 26th: Started [U]daily 14mg[/U] as above. [U]X7d only[/U]. AUG 2: **[U]I am back on the 50mg Test Enanthate+10000iu vit D compound q M/F [/U]and 350iu HCG qT/Th. No AI. AUG 9: At this point Ive been on TRT for almost 8wk. Albeit with variations in protocols and doses but never below 100mg within 7d, really except for 1wk at 14mg/d was never below 100mg within the 4.5d half life of TE. I have scheduled a consult W/ Dr Saya for further insight and a 2nd opinion as well. [U]Questions for the forum:[/U] 1: If anything I feel slightly better, less 'agitated' and less hormonally unstable during my 'trough' than peak at 12-24h or so after my 50mg injection. Per the discussion above, my peak on my current 50mg biw protocol is likely supraphysiological [1200+] TT. My trough at 4d, with a 4.5d half life of TE, was around 712. Q1.1: Do I just shut up, suck it up and change NOTHING and retest in 8wk? OR is there merit and a scientifically appropriate way to tune the protocol during this time -- assuming Im fine with any frequency of labs and injections?Knowing Ive basically been on 100mg or more for that last 8wk. Q1.2: OR is there a good chance Ill feel less activated and more hormonally balanced with 30mg M/W/F? -- and then just stick to that for 8wk and retest? Intuitively I feel less T is more comfortable given my above numbers BUT logically and anecdotally I have no clue. 2: Subjectively, yes I feel like crap. Cold, retracted penis/scrotum -- like I had on occasion prior to TRT. Weak/Little to no morning erections. Inconsistent emotional resilience - ie bitchy, moody, tired. Peeing more/less tolerance to full bladder. Q2.1: ?Related to HIGH E2 spikes secondary to my supra-physiological Peaks on current protocol, as members posited above? Q3.1: An underlying, deep concern is that my previous propecia use will permanently affect my ability to benefit from TRT. Experience and insights from prop users who TRT helped? Q4.1: Any possible benefit to changing to a non compounded Test Enanthate or Test Cypionate? Ie: One from a Walgreens and WITHOUT the VitD? My pharmacy currently is Hallandale. Any experiences? I have seen members that prefer one ester over the other. Further experience appreciated. 5: The HCG is for fertility maintenance: I have a sperm bank/analysis coming next week. If viable I will bank. IF not, then that's a whole other can of worms. As I was viable prior to TRT. Q5.1 : Does my current protocol of 350iu biw have ANYTHING to do with the fact that Im feeling crappy/unbalanced? [/QUOTE]
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