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TRT w/ BCP157 and TB500
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 273318" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>Homie don't play that shit rookie!</p><p></p><p>Sit back and think this through!</p><p></p><p>Went over your head.</p><p></p><p>Yes in your reply you clearly stated that you were pursuing the ND to help with joint pain and take advantage of the anabolic effects.</p><p></p><p>Again you were already head over heels 4 weeks in talking about increasing your dose and I told you 4 weeks means nothing as you have not even reached a steady state due to the PK of ND.</p><p></p><p>Clear as the day you lack an understanding of the PKs.</p><p></p><p>Yes, you did state you would give it 12 weeks before deciding on your next move.</p><p></p><p>Even then would not expect any miracles went it comes to muscle/strength gains using therapeutic doses of 50-100 mg/week of ND.</p><p></p><p>200 mg ND/week is where its true anabolic potential starts to shine and this is not a therapeutic dose.</p><p></p><p>The dose used/prescribed for relief of joint/bone pain is 50-100 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>Some may go slightly higher but 200 mg is overkill and not prescribed/needed for such.</p><p></p><p>Most using/abusing ND for the sole purpose of muscle/strength gains would be injecting a whopping 400-600 mg/week.</p><p></p><p>The same can be said for TRT as the gains in muscle/strength when using average therapeutic doses of 100-150 mg T/week are going to be far from stellar and again 200 mg T/week is where its true anabolic potential starts to shine.</p><p></p><p>Most using/abusing T for the sole purpose of muscle/strength gains would be injecting 400-600mg T/week.</p><p></p><p>If one wanted to truly take advantage of the anabolic effects of T/ND without going ape shit then 200 mg T +200 mg ND would be where it's at.</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, this would not even be considered HRT as even though 200 mg T would be considered the high-end therapeutic dose (most men would never even need it) throwing in another 200 mg ND is a shitload of androgens/week.</p><p></p><p>400 mg/week of androgens is in no way considered HRT/therapeutic.</p><p></p><p>This would be no different than abusing 400mg T/week other than the fact one is replacing some of the T with ND to prevent/minimize any potential side effects.</p><p></p><p>The big issue here is you started on too high a TRT dose + hCG off the hop then went and added in the ND.</p><p></p><p>160mg T/week is not starting low and slow!</p><p></p><p>Top it off you threw in the hCG and ND to boot.</p><p></p><p>Never going to get dialed in let alone know what may be causing any negative effects/sides that may arise.</p><p></p><p>Hope you understand that starting off on too high a TRT dose will most likely have your trough FT too high and it is a given that you are going to drive up your hematocrit.</p><p></p><p>ND is no different as once you start pushing up the dose it can drive up your hematocrit.</p><p></p><p>You need to tread lightly here as you are recovering from a f**KING ruptured tendon and you need to be mindful when it comes to how much and how fast you add muscle/increase strength as tendons take way longer to heal/strengthen than muscle.</p><p></p><p>Yet you had already mentioned in 1st thread posted on the forum that you were interested in oxandrolone/stanozolol.</p><p></p><p>Hope you understand that the main properties of these compounds are increased strength/fat loss.</p><p></p><p>Most would consider these strength compounds as opposed to mass builders!</p><p></p><p>If you have experience drawing/injecting oil-based T + water-based hCG using an insulin syringe I see no issue throwing in the BPC157.</p><p></p><p>If it were me I would just inject solo.</p><p></p><p>Do what you feel is best for you!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 273318, member: 13851"] Homie don't play that shit rookie! Sit back and think this through! Went over your head. Yes in your reply you clearly stated that you were pursuing the ND to help with joint pain and take advantage of the anabolic effects. Again you were already head over heels 4 weeks in talking about increasing your dose and I told you 4 weeks means nothing as you have not even reached a steady state due to the PK of ND. Clear as the day you lack an understanding of the PKs. Yes, you did state you would give it 12 weeks before deciding on your next move. Even then would not expect any miracles went it comes to muscle/strength gains using therapeutic doses of 50-100 mg/week of ND. 200 mg ND/week is where its true anabolic potential starts to shine and this is not a therapeutic dose. The dose used/prescribed for relief of joint/bone pain is 50-100 mg/week. Some may go slightly higher but 200 mg is overkill and not prescribed/needed for such. Most using/abusing ND for the sole purpose of muscle/strength gains would be injecting a whopping 400-600 mg/week. The same can be said for TRT as the gains in muscle/strength when using average therapeutic doses of 100-150 mg T/week are going to be far from stellar and again 200 mg T/week is where its true anabolic potential starts to shine. Most using/abusing T for the sole purpose of muscle/strength gains would be injecting 400-600mg T/week. If one wanted to truly take advantage of the anabolic effects of T/ND without going ape shit then 200 mg T +200 mg ND would be where it's at. Unfortunately, this would not even be considered HRT as even though 200 mg T would be considered the high-end therapeutic dose (most men would never even need it) throwing in another 200 mg ND is a shitload of androgens/week. 400 mg/week of androgens is in no way considered HRT/therapeutic. This would be no different than abusing 400mg T/week other than the fact one is replacing some of the T with ND to prevent/minimize any potential side effects. The big issue here is you started on too high a TRT dose + hCG off the hop then went and added in the ND. 160mg T/week is not starting low and slow! Top it off you threw in the hCG and ND to boot. Never going to get dialed in let alone know what may be causing any negative effects/sides that may arise. Hope you understand that starting off on too high a TRT dose will most likely have your trough FT too high and it is a given that you are going to drive up your hematocrit. ND is no different as once you start pushing up the dose it can drive up your hematocrit. You need to tread lightly here as you are recovering from a f**KING ruptured tendon and you need to be mindful when it comes to how much and how fast you add muscle/increase strength as tendons take way longer to heal/strengthen than muscle. Yet you had already mentioned in 1st thread posted on the forum that you were interested in oxandrolone/stanozolol. Hope you understand that the main properties of these compounds are increased strength/fat loss. Most would consider these strength compounds as opposed to mass builders! If you have experience drawing/injecting oil-based T + water-based hCG using an insulin syringe I see no issue throwing in the BPC157. If it were me I would just inject solo. Do what you feel is best for you! [/QUOTE]
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