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Thanks but I‘ve had read that thread already. It’s interesting no doubt and the gist of it seems to be that at least according to a study 125mg are enough to see muscle development. The rest is less helpful though, lots of talk about that it needs 200mg+ to see a difference anyway while others being on full blown mini cycles talk about their experiences yeah and after that it turns into an off topic peptide talk for some reason.. This isn’t really what I’m looking for. I’d like to hear from people who are currently on common doses and that had realistic expectations to begin with. What have been their experiences? How has it affected their training, if any, and when? I’d rather skip supra-discussions since I’ll never be interested in reaching such levels.


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