TRT Dose & Expected TT

[DaveK2204]

Just looking for "best guesses" here on this one.

49, 205 lbs, physically fit, & Secondary:
TT in low 300's natural.
TT 550-625 range using Clomid Mono Therapy @ 12.5mg ED + .25mg adex E3D for past 1.5 yr

Switching to TRT...
50mg Test-C E3.5D (100mg per week total) Sub-Q. > What would one guess my TT will be after 5 weeks?

Same question as above but add in HCG 250 iu 2x week (same day as Test shots if it matters) > New TT?

Plan to do labs but just curious what to expect. Thanks in advance

 

[ERO]

Your SHBG levels are going to be the wildcard in any sort of guess. Low SHBG guys go though Test fast so under that scenario your Total T levels on 100 mg a week would be low - perhaps around the same levels you have now. Higher SHBG would translate into higher levels.

 

[Vince Carter]

There' can't be a guess, you'll find out in 5 weeks. You're on a minimum dose and it's about more than just, liek SHBG mentioned by ERO. HCG isn't going to impact your TT.

 

[DaveK2204]

My SHBG has averaged 26 (10-50 ref range) over past 1.5 years while on clomid mono. I had 36 SHBG a few years ago when tested after 3 months natural (TT=312) & did paleo diet same time.

My goal is to get into 800 TT range...is 100mg a week to low? Or hard to say not knowing current SHBG?

 

[Vince]

Height and weight doesn't matter. I think you're starting to low, I would start with at least 70mg of T and 500iu of HCG every 3 1/2 days. I would never go higher then 500iu of HCG, unless for a restart a course.

 

[DaveK2204]

Height and weight doesn't matter. I think you're starting to low, I would start with at least 70mg of T and 500iu of HCG every 3 1/2 days. I would never go higher then 500iu of HCG, unless for a restart a course.

Years ago I did HCG mono & E2 shot into the 90's. So I prefer to use just enough HCG to prevent atrophy. That's why I was thinking 250 iu 2x week. I think your right about the 70mg too.

PS What a great forum this is

 

[Vince]

Years ago I did HCG mono & E2 shot into the 90's. So I prefer to use just enough HCG to prevent atrophy. That's why I was thinking 250 iu 2x week. I think your right about the 70mg too.

PS What a great forum this is

Yes I really enjoy this forum, if it was me I would start with at least 70mg of T.

 

[ERO]

FWIW, I too would start at 70 twice weekly.

 

[James]

Dave - the best I ever felt was when I was taking 100mg per week. As many have said shbg will influence your numbers. I've never taken HCG and have been lucky not to experience any atrophy.

I think it's tough to tell because everyone is so different in the way they metabolize this drug, but a test doc I know claims to have treated 5,000 guys and says that 80% of the time if you increase the Cypionate by 10 milligrams, the total test will raise between 90 and 110 points.