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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
TRT doesn't cause deficiency of Preg/DHEA/Prog and HCG doesn't fix it
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<blockquote data-quote="Phil Goodman" data-source="post: 229455" data-attributes="member: 42777"><p>Well, he may be right and he may be wrong. Either way, his “here’s why” explanation is terrible. Saying there are people all over the board when it comes to the issue does not explain why the claim is true. It should be easy to prove or disprove though. Simply go through lots of lab ranges for guys and take their Pre-TRT labs, look at DHEA values, and then compare them to the values found in their 3, 6, and 12 month follow up. If significant drops are seen then it is reasonable to conclude the TRT probably played a role in it. If not then it’s safe to conclude that TRT doesn’t significantly impact DHEA(just using that as the example since it’s the one most commonly measured). And to follow up, if DHEA decreases then just follow lab values for men who take HCG without supplementing DHEA directly. </p><p></p><p></p><p>In theory it makes sense that he could be right. After all, just because test is high it doesn’t seem logical that our bodies would shut down or substantially drop production of other hormones that are so important. Our bodies are much smarter and more resilient than that imho. But it’s still quite possible that supplementing test does impact those in a meaningful way. And again his reasoning for why that isn’t true isn’t a why at all so he didn’t really prove anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Phil Goodman, post: 229455, member: 42777"] Well, he may be right and he may be wrong. Either way, his “here’s why” explanation is terrible. Saying there are people all over the board when it comes to the issue does not explain why the claim is true. It should be easy to prove or disprove though. Simply go through lots of lab ranges for guys and take their Pre-TRT labs, look at DHEA values, and then compare them to the values found in their 3, 6, and 12 month follow up. If significant drops are seen then it is reasonable to conclude the TRT probably played a role in it. If not then it’s safe to conclude that TRT doesn’t significantly impact DHEA(just using that as the example since it’s the one most commonly measured). And to follow up, if DHEA decreases then just follow lab values for men who take HCG without supplementing DHEA directly. In theory it makes sense that he could be right. After all, just because test is high it doesn’t seem logical that our bodies would shut down or substantially drop production of other hormones that are so important. Our bodies are much smarter and more resilient than that imho. But it’s still quite possible that supplementing test does impact those in a meaningful way. And again his reasoning for why that isn’t true isn’t a why at all so he didn’t really prove anything. [/QUOTE]
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Thyroid, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, DHEA, etc
Thyroid, DHEA, Pregnenolone, Progesterone, etc
TRT doesn't cause deficiency of Preg/DHEA/Prog and HCG doesn't fix it
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