Third week into TRT

[Lonestar71]

Hey Guys-

I wanted to drop a quick update seeing how this site and Nelson were the deciding factor to start TRT.
Yesterday morning was my third T injection.

Here's my protocol:
Testosterone 200mg/mL
- Injecting 1mL weekly
HCG: 5000 IU Injectable
- 0.5mL twice weekly

As of today I have felt ZERO effects, good nor bad so I'm just playing the waiting game. I'm guessing I'll start feeling something within six weeks? Is there a normal time frame?

Thanks

 

[Vince]

Could you post your pre TRT labs. You may be a low SHBG guy. Hopefully you only need to get dialed in.

 

[Lonestar71]

Thanks Vince.



Patient Details Specimen Details Physician Details

DOB: 12/18/1971 Date collected: 01/13/2017 0825 Local Ordering: R MCCLAIN

Age(y/m/d): 045/00/26 Date entered: 01/13/2017 Referring:

Gender: M SSN: Date reported: 01/19/2017 1514 ET ID: 15759893

Patient ID: DL 3733



General Comments & Additional Information

Alternate Control Number: B0053385970 Alternate Patient ID: Not Provided

Total Volume: Not Provided Fasting: Yes



Ordered Items

CBC With Differential/Platelet; Comp. Metabolic Panel (14); Lipid Panel w/ Chol/HDL Ratio; FSH and LH; Testosterone, Free+Total

LC/MS; Dihydrotestosterone; Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S; DHEA-Sulfate; TSH; Prostate-Specific Ag, Serum; Estradiol, Sensitive;

Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum; Venipuncture



TESTS RESULT FLAG UNITS REFERENCE INTERVAL LAB

CBC With Differential/Platelet

WBC 9.5 x10E3/uL 3.4 - 10.8 01

RBC 4.72 x10E6/uL 4.14 - 5.80 01

Hemoglobin 15.7 g/dL 12.6 - 17.7 01

Hematocrit 45.0 % 37.5 - 51.0 01

MCV 95 fL 79 - 97 01

MCH 33.3 High pg 26.6 - 33.0 01

MCHC 34.9 g/dL 31.5 - 35.7 01

RDW 13.3 % 12.3 - 15.4 01

Platelets 260 x10E3/uL 150 - 379 01

Neutrophils 66 % 01

Lymphs 23 % 01

Monocytes 7 % 01

Eos 4 % 01

Basos 0 % 01

Neutrophils (Absolute) 6.3 x10E3/uL 1.4 - 7.0 01

Lymphs (Absolute) 2.2 x10E3/uL 0.7 - 3.1 01

Monocytes(Absolute) 0.7 x10E3/uL 0.1 - 0.9 01

Eos (Absolute) 0.3 x10E3/uL 0.0 - 0.4 01

Baso (Absolute) 0.0 x10E3/uL 0.0 - 0.2 01

Immature Granulocytes 0 % 01

Immature Grans (Abs) 0.0 x10E3/uL 0.0 - 0.1 01



Comp. Metabolic Panel (14)

Glucose, Serum 79 mg/dL 65 - 99 01

BUN 17 mg/dL 6 - 24 01

Creatinine, Serum 0.92 mg/dL 0.76 - 1.27 01

eGFR If NonAfricn Am 100 mL/min/1.73 >59

eGFR If Africn Am 116 mL/min/1.73 >59








Specimen ID: 013-363-0659-0

DOB: 12/18/1971 Patient ID: Control ID: B0053385970 Date collected: 01/13/2017 0825 Local



TESTS RESULT FLAG UNITS REFERENCE INTERVAL LAB

BUN/Creatinine Ratio 18 9 - 20

Sodium, Serum 138 mmol/L 134 - 144 01

Potassium, Serum 4.5 mmol/L 3.5 - 5.2 01

Chloride, Serum 97 mmol/L 96 - 106 01

Carbon Dioxide, Total 21 mmol/L 18 - 29 01

Calcium, Serum 9.3 mg/dL 8.7 - 10.2 01

Protein, Total, Serum 6.9 g/dL 6.0 - 8.5 01

Albumin, Serum 4.4 g/dL 3.5 - 5.5 01

Globulin, Total 2.5 g/dL 1.5 - 4.5

A/G Ratio 1.8 1.1 - 2.5

Bilirubin, Total 0.6 mg/dL 0.0 - 1.2 01

Alkaline Phosphatase, S 63 IU/L 39 - 117 01

AST (SGOT) 27 IU/L 0 - 40 01

ALT (SGPT) 29 IU/L 0 - 44 01



Lipid Panel w/ Chol/HDL Ratio

Cholesterol, Total 248 High mg/dL 100 - 199 01

Triglycerides 98 mg/dL 0 - 149 01

HDL Cholesterol 38 Low mg/dL >39 01

VLDL Cholesterol Cal 20 mg/dL 5 - 40

LDL Cholesterol Calc 190 High mg/dL 0 - 99

T. Chol/HDL Ratio 6.5 High ratio units 0.0 - 5.0



Please Note: 01

T. Chol/HDL Ratio

Men Women

1/2 Avg.Risk 3.4 3.3

Avg.Risk 5.0 4.4

2X Avg.Risk 9.6 7.1

3X Avg.Risk 23.4 11.0



FSH and LH

LH 6.6 mIU/mL 1.7 - 8.6 01

FSH 3.4 mIU/mL 1.5 - 12.4 01



Testosterone, Free+Total LC/MS

Testosterone, Total, LC/MS 318.7 Low ng/dL 348.0 - 1197.0 02

Adult male reference interval is based on a population of lean males

up to 40 years old.

Disclaimer: 02

This test was developed and its performance characteristics

determined by LabCorp. It has not been cleared or approved

by the Food and Drug Administration.

Free Testosterone(Direct) 11.1 pg/mL 6.8 - 21.5 02



Dihydrotestosterone 29 Low ng/dL 03

Reference Range:



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Specimen ID: 013-363-0659-0

DOB: 12/18/1971 Patient ID: Control ID: B0053385970 Date collected: 01/13/2017 0825 Local



TESTS RESULT FLAG UNITS REFERENCE INTERVAL LAB

Adult Male: 30 - 85



Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct, S

T4,Free(Direct) 2.03 High ng/dL 0.82 - 1.77 01



DHEA-Sulfate 472.9 High ug/dL 71.6 - 375.4 01



TSH 1.030 uIU/mL 0.450 - 4.500 01



Prostate-Specific Ag, Serum

Prostate Specific Ag, Serum 0.4 ng/mL 0.0 - 4.0 01

Roche ECLIA methodology.

According to the American Urological Association, Serum PSA should

decrease and remain at undetectable levels after radical

prostatectomy. The AUA defines biochemical recurrence as an initial

PSA value 0.2 ng/mL or greater followed by a subsequent confirmatory

PSA value 0.2 ng/mL or greater.

Values obtained with different assay methods or kits cannot be used

interchangeably. Results cannot be interpreted as absolute evidence

of the presence or absence of malignant disease.



Estradiol, Sensitive 12.3 pg/mL 8.0 - 35.0 02

This test was developed and its performance characteristics

determined by LabCorp. It has not been cleared by the Food and

Drug Administration.

Methodology: Liquid chromatography tandem mass spectrometry(LC/MS/MS)



Triiodothyronine,Free,Serum 3.5 pg/mL 2.0 - 4.4 01

 

[Vince Carter]

No offense but that's a terrible treatment protocol...too much T in one-shot = Estrogen problems from the excess Test, and wayyyyyy too much HCG. Who's prescribed this for you?

 

[Lonestar71]

None taken. Thank you for your input.
Dr. Mcllhenny in Houston via Prime Body
Suggestions please?

She did mention my E2 was low to begin with?

 

[Vince Carter]

tell us again your HCG usage, this isn't a dose:

HCG: 5000 IU Injectable
- 0.5mL twice weekly

...no one can tell how you mixed it so mL could mean anything.

 

[Sean Mosher]

Hey Lonestar 71.........I'm also with PrimeBody here in Houston.

Your e2 is pretty low.
That definitely needs to climb and probably is a big factor in why you're not feeling well yet.
200mg once a week isn't too bad though it is on the upper end for sure.
I did very well on that protocol but eventually did switch to twice a week injections.

I'm assuming you meant 500 IU's of hCG twice a week correct?
That's much more common.

 

[Vince Carter]

I agree with Sean your E2 is previously rather low actually in a spot that most of us would consider it a bad place to be but on 200mg at one-time that will surely climb. Three weeks is pretty soon to tell.

 

[Lonestar71]

Many thanks for the input! .5ml HCG. I just copied and pasted that protocol from PrimeBody when they emailed me the info. I do know that I use the super thin syringe to half.

Sean- How long until you truly felt the effects? How was your libido prior and post? I'm asking because that's my main issue. My libido has been on vacation for over two years.

Thanks again guys!

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Primebody starts men at 200 mg per week and then adjusts down if needed. It's just a different approach than starting men at 100 mg per week and adjusting upwards.

5000 IU of HCG should be mixed with 5 mls of water. 0.5 cc means 500 IU twice per week.

It takes a while to "feel' benefits.
How long does testosterone take to show effects?
Add 5-10 mg per day of Cialis to bump up your benefits during the first week.

 

[ERO]

It would be good to test your SHBG as well. If its low that could explain why you are feeling nothing. 3 weeks is still early though.

 

[sportsfan8724]

Fairly high doses of testosterone and hcg to start. You are not on an ai correct?

 

[Lonestar71]

No, I am currently not on AI but I hated the movie. Also, are my SHBG levels not in my labs above? Thanks again guys.

TJ