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<blockquote data-quote="BillyJ03z" data-source="post: 248218" data-attributes="member: 17759"><p>You hit the nail on the head.... the Trade offs with trying to improve one thing and then causing problems for others.</p><p></p><p>For me, I have been on straight Cyp for about 85% of the time I have been on TRT (2xWK, E3D, EOD, ED injects w/ IM and SQ @ 8mg, 10mg, 12mg, 15mg, 20mg, 25mg doses.... still shitty sleep, varying levels of moderate to high E2 and DHT, etc... and I'm low SHBG. The other 15% of the time I have tried straight Prop and Prop/Cyp combos all at the previously mentioned dosages with ED schedule... still shitty sleep, varying levels of moderate to high E2 and DHT, etc..... again I'm low SHBG....</p><p></p><p>Like [USER=39921]@bixt[/USER] previously stated, the trade offs man.... When I'm on low dose Test, I don't enjoy the huge muscle building benefits/energy one would expect in the gym being on TRT (should be slightly over baseline from Natty, but don't feel I am) and it's not improving my sleep being on low dose... Then if I go higher with the Test Dose to get more benefits in the gym then I throw all my hormones out of whack even worse than i do with low dose (higher DHT, Higher E2, pummel my SHBG to single digit levels, etc....) and my sleep still sucks...</p><p></p><p>One big thing I noticed since starting TRT also, is that I have no sensitivity to any CNS stimulants anymore and I've never abused nor relied on stimulants in the past, as I only used stims as a pick-me up when feeling sluggish on certain gym days... In the past before starting TRT, a strong cup of black coffee would get me motivated and give me energy, but nothing now. Also, I tried the holy grail of stims "Ritalin and Adderall" and it did absolutely nothing for me. I know my CNS is depleted. So TRT did cause a whole cascade of issues for me. I have read that Pregnenolone helps with CNS repair/maintenance so I may go back and try some moderate to high doses and see what happens. Only problem is that anytime I tried 12.5 - 25mg of Preg it immediately bloated the hell out of me. I'm talking my stomach looked like a puffer fish.. smdh</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BillyJ03z, post: 248218, member: 17759"] You hit the nail on the head.... the Trade offs with trying to improve one thing and then causing problems for others. For me, I have been on straight Cyp for about 85% of the time I have been on TRT (2xWK, E3D, EOD, ED injects w/ IM and SQ @ 8mg, 10mg, 12mg, 15mg, 20mg, 25mg doses.... still shitty sleep, varying levels of moderate to high E2 and DHT, etc... and I'm low SHBG. The other 15% of the time I have tried straight Prop and Prop/Cyp combos all at the previously mentioned dosages with ED schedule... still shitty sleep, varying levels of moderate to high E2 and DHT, etc..... again I'm low SHBG.... Like [USER=39921]@bixt[/USER] previously stated, the trade offs man.... When I'm on low dose Test, I don't enjoy the huge muscle building benefits/energy one would expect in the gym being on TRT (should be slightly over baseline from Natty, but don't feel I am) and it's not improving my sleep being on low dose... Then if I go higher with the Test Dose to get more benefits in the gym then I throw all my hormones out of whack even worse than i do with low dose (higher DHT, Higher E2, pummel my SHBG to single digit levels, etc....) and my sleep still sucks... One big thing I noticed since starting TRT also, is that I have no sensitivity to any CNS stimulants anymore and I've never abused nor relied on stimulants in the past, as I only used stims as a pick-me up when feeling sluggish on certain gym days... In the past before starting TRT, a strong cup of black coffee would get me motivated and give me energy, but nothing now. Also, I tried the holy grail of stims "Ritalin and Adderall" and it did absolutely nothing for me. I know my CNS is depleted. So TRT did cause a whole cascade of issues for me. I have read that Pregnenolone helps with CNS repair/maintenance so I may go back and try some moderate to high doses and see what happens. Only problem is that anytime I tried 12.5 - 25mg of Preg it immediately bloated the hell out of me. I'm talking my stomach looked like a puffer fish.. smdh [/QUOTE]
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