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<blockquote data-quote="bixt" data-source="post: 240608" data-attributes="member: 39921"><p>Here's another data point for you: MK677 - not mentioned too much except in passing in the above linked thread. But my cousin is blasting a lot of things as well as using 20mg of UGL MK daily. He is using it for the "side effect" grelin receptor agonist properties (i.e. insane hunger to bulk). But coincidently he says he sleeps like a baby. </p><p></p><p>From Wikipedia: </p><h2>"Effect on sleep architecture"</h2><p></p><p>"In a small study of 14 subjects, MK-677 dosed at 25mg/day at bedtime was shown to increase REM sleep by 20% and 50% in young and older subjects respectively.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibutamoren#cite_note-:4-16" target="_blank">[16]</a> Treatment with MK-677 also resulted in an approximate 50% increase in stage IV sleep in young subjects"</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>My comment and comparison to benzos: On paper this appears to be better than even benzos! Benzos increase stage 1 and 2, they increase the time spent (latency) to REM as well. They do not do much for deep sleep (stage 3 & 4) as far as duration goes. Also the amplitude (height in a chart) of the slow waves are lower, per EEG. </p><p></p><p>Now MK-677 increases deep steep (stage 4) for 50% and looks like a winner on paper. </p><p></p><p>Get some. It seems to have been forgotten in light of the price being 3/4 to that of actual GH in North America (from what I read on PM). So most people don't bother and use actual GH. In my part of the world, a packet of 50 tabs of 10mg MK is roughly 1/10th the price of 100IUs of dubious quality GH.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bixt, post: 240608, member: 39921"] Here's another data point for you: MK677 - not mentioned too much except in passing in the above linked thread. But my cousin is blasting a lot of things as well as using 20mg of UGL MK daily. He is using it for the "side effect" grelin receptor agonist properties (i.e. insane hunger to bulk). But coincidently he says he sleeps like a baby. From Wikipedia: [HEADING=1]"Effect on sleep architecture"[/HEADING] "In a small study of 14 subjects, MK-677 dosed at 25mg/day at bedtime was shown to increase REM sleep by 20% and 50% in young and older subjects respectively.[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibutamoren#cite_note-:4-16'][16][/URL] Treatment with MK-677 also resulted in an approximate 50% increase in stage IV sleep in young subjects" My comment and comparison to benzos: On paper this appears to be better than even benzos! Benzos increase stage 1 and 2, they increase the time spent (latency) to REM as well. They do not do much for deep sleep (stage 3 & 4) as far as duration goes. Also the amplitude (height in a chart) of the slow waves are lower, per EEG. Now MK-677 increases deep steep (stage 4) for 50% and looks like a winner on paper. Get some. It seems to have been forgotten in light of the price being 3/4 to that of actual GH in North America (from what I read on PM). So most people don't bother and use actual GH. In my part of the world, a packet of 50 tabs of 10mg MK is roughly 1/10th the price of 100IUs of dubious quality GH. [/QUOTE]
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