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<blockquote data-quote="bixt" data-source="post: 240278" data-attributes="member: 39921"><p>Yes, I will shamelessly admit my motives here are strictly TOT and not TRT. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Didn't mention this in my post: Around 7-8 of the daily injects were blends of 50:50 prop to cyp (by mg). There was a 4 in a day row of them, and the others random. Immediately resulted in a softer EQ (as was always the case with cyp). Soft meaning perfectly usable, just not these rock hard steel ones I get from straight prop. Also, there were a couple days of 10mg prop solo (the same amount of prop as in the blend) and I still had the rock-hard EQ. So something to do with the cyp itself is therefore giving me softies (not that soft but relatively comparing). I have no scientific hypothesis to back this up, same as there isn't one for prop being a "dry" compound for BBs. </p><p></p><p>More than 1.5 years ago I did a month of the 4:3 blend at 120mg / week after reading about it here. I think I should change my username to "testalot". I recall it being no different to a similar dose of straight cyp as far as libido or energy or EQ went and so forgot about it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On the contrary, I wake up fantastic and fresh on tiny doses of diazepam, 4 shots equivalent of hard alcohol or Mk-677. Its the anti-histamines that kept me groggy and I am informed zopiclone as well does this to many. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1000% concur as well. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Been there, done that, crippled those limbs after (IM prop). Repeatedly. As "hankthetank" said to me over at T-Nation, I don't learn from my mistakes. You will see lots of my old posts criticizing Subq, I am doing them here (with prop) out of a lack of other options. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Tried these also in this experiment. I do recall my gym performance and endurance suffering greatly. Due to me training in the late evening (at the trough of the prop). I was injecting right before bed. I can't compromise on this. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Done both together and solo, during the early parts of this experiment and also before with cyp. I may as well have been taking sugar pills. </p><p></p><p>Important: I have been using HCG (Puretrig India pharma) at around 400IU every 3-4-5 days before and during this experiment. Your mention of downstream hormones made me recall this fact. The stuff bloats me up for the day of injection for the day, bloat, water retention, laziness, "high E2" symptoms people will say). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably to the great disappointment of many, I will put my head down in shame and admit to having been playing with hormones for years and never had a single blood test done. Ever. I'm not joking. I could blame the lack of anonymous testing where I am based, or the availability of only "piss poor" tests. But it's actually my fear of the big needle that has countlessly stopped me. (for example, I fainted when I saw the epidural needle the anaesthetist was about to use on my wife when giving birth). </p><p></p><p>Perhaps one day when I find the perfect protocol in every way I will fly somewhere far to do the requisite bloods so that I have a "snapshot" of that perfect moment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bixt, post: 240278, member: 39921"] Yes, I will shamelessly admit my motives here are strictly TOT and not TRT. Didn't mention this in my post: Around 7-8 of the daily injects were blends of 50:50 prop to cyp (by mg). There was a 4 in a day row of them, and the others random. Immediately resulted in a softer EQ (as was always the case with cyp). Soft meaning perfectly usable, just not these rock hard steel ones I get from straight prop. Also, there were a couple days of 10mg prop solo (the same amount of prop as in the blend) and I still had the rock-hard EQ. So something to do with the cyp itself is therefore giving me softies (not that soft but relatively comparing). I have no scientific hypothesis to back this up, same as there isn't one for prop being a "dry" compound for BBs. More than 1.5 years ago I did a month of the 4:3 blend at 120mg / week after reading about it here. I think I should change my username to "testalot". I recall it being no different to a similar dose of straight cyp as far as libido or energy or EQ went and so forgot about it. On the contrary, I wake up fantastic and fresh on tiny doses of diazepam, 4 shots equivalent of hard alcohol or Mk-677. Its the anti-histamines that kept me groggy and I am informed zopiclone as well does this to many. 1000% concur as well. Been there, done that, crippled those limbs after (IM prop). Repeatedly. As "hankthetank" said to me over at T-Nation, I don't learn from my mistakes. You will see lots of my old posts criticizing Subq, I am doing them here (with prop) out of a lack of other options. Tried these also in this experiment. I do recall my gym performance and endurance suffering greatly. Due to me training in the late evening (at the trough of the prop). I was injecting right before bed. I can't compromise on this. Done both together and solo, during the early parts of this experiment and also before with cyp. I may as well have been taking sugar pills. Important: I have been using HCG (Puretrig India pharma) at around 400IU every 3-4-5 days before and during this experiment. Your mention of downstream hormones made me recall this fact. The stuff bloats me up for the day of injection for the day, bloat, water retention, laziness, "high E2" symptoms people will say). Probably to the great disappointment of many, I will put my head down in shame and admit to having been playing with hormones for years and never had a single blood test done. Ever. I'm not joking. I could blame the lack of anonymous testing where I am based, or the availability of only "piss poor" tests. But it's actually my fear of the big needle that has countlessly stopped me. (for example, I fainted when I saw the epidural needle the anaesthetist was about to use on my wife when giving birth). Perhaps one day when I find the perfect protocol in every way I will fly somewhere far to do the requisite bloods so that I have a "snapshot" of that perfect moment. [/QUOTE]
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