Switched from Testosterone troche to SQ shots, feel horrible now.

[Tylurnt]

Been on anywhere from 25-50mg troche for 7 months now and after doing research found out it wasn't actually raising my levels. Only was for a short period after taking it, and when it wore off my levels would plummet. Was a 124 test morning before I took the troche. (Was 320 before i ever got on the troches)

Decided to switch to Test C subq shots. Took 50mg in the belly Friday (now its sunday) and have been feeling increasingly worse ever since. My symptoms are extreme fatigue/lethargy , heart palpitations, anxiety and very blah and low mood. Just feel out of it. Trying to figure out what's going on. Do you think I'm suffering from too little testosterone or too much?

 

[Systemlord]

I’ve been on injections and just about every protocol you can imagine and the worst protocol was sub Q. It sounds like your response is a little too robust. You might also be on too high a dosage.

I would recommend lowering your dose to around 40 mg IM twice a week and don’t be afraid to lower your dose even more, sometimes less is more.

You should wait a minimum of 4-6 weeks before drawing labs on new protocols.

If you haven’t already, I would recommend testing ferritin and iron saturation. Any deficiencies can be exacerbated on TRT, especially low ferritin and this can cause severe anxiety and fatigue.

An iron panel should be standard procedure prior to starting TRT.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

Friends don't let friends start with subq.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CXF7V7BV

5/8" into the delt, ventroglute or quad. Lower dose isn't a bad idea either if your initial reaction is so unpleasant.

 

[Tylurnt]

I’ve been on injections and just about every protocol you can imagine and the worst protocol was sub Q. It sounds like your response is a little too robust. You might also be on too high a dosage.

I would recommend lowering your dose to around 40 mg IM twice a week and don’t be afraid to lower your dose even more, sometimes less is more.

You should wait a minimum of 4-6 weeks before drawing labs on new protocols.

If you haven’t already, I would recommend testing ferritin and iron saturation. Any deficiencies can be exacerbated on TRT, especially low ferritin and this can cause severe anxiety and fatigue.

An iron panel should be standard procedure prior to starting TRT.

What was bad about the subq protocol for you?

 

[Jerajera]

subQ was a terrible experience for me as well and I doubt it was placebo because I went into it very optimistic and expecting great results.

When running labs, TT and FT came back much lower than on the otherwise same IM daily injection protocol, and E2 much higher. This was 8 weeks after having switched from IM to subQ.

I can't explain it and I'm not sure what would cause that to happen, but that was my experience.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

When running labs, TT and FT came back much lower than on the otherwise same IM daily injection protocol, and E2 much higher.

Same here

 

[Systemlord]

What was bad about the subq protocol for you?

Try to imagine being in a drunken stupor only that doesn’t come close. Some have called it an inflammatory response. I think it’s much more than that. I would compare to marijuana use, the way the brain is fogged up.

Amplify that 100 times, throw in some drugs and high percentage alcohol.

 

[FunkOdyssey]

What was bad about the subq protocol for you?

I had totally forgotten about this thread. So, you had already received some strong testimonials here, which should have prompted experimentation with different injection methods seven months ago, and ignored it completely. Doesn't bode well for your chances of dialing in on TRT.

 

[Tylurnt]

I had totally forgotten about this thread. So, you had already received some strong testimonials here, which should have prompted experimentation with different injection methods seven months ago, and ignored it completely. Doesn't bode well for your chances of dialing in on TRT.

I just started IM the other day. I didnt not listen In the past.... too many other says no difference in subq and IM. Hard to know who to listen to. But now im tired of suffering so will see how IM does

 

[FunkOdyssey]

I just started IM the other day. I didnt not listen In the past.... too many other says no difference in subq and IM. Hard to know who to listen to. But now im tired of suffering so will see how IM does

No guarantees, but it's certainly worth the experiment! There may be hope for you yet.

 

[Tylurnt]

No guarantees, but it's certainly worth the experiment! There may be hope for you yet.

Thank you... trying IM daily for a while. If that doesnt work, going to less frequent dosing. I hope there is hope...

 

[Tylurnt]

No guarantees, but it's certainly worth the experiment! There may be hope for you yet.

And honestly, in the delt is less painful than in the belly fat