I am 25 years of age and looking to maintain fertility while raising testosterone. I have battled low t since 2012. I had success on paper with clomid raising t from 338ng/do to 778ng/do. Free t was 29 on a 10-30 range if I remember correctly. Total estrogen was 131 so pretty high. Clomid helped with some symptoms but has crushed my libido. My dose was low 12.5mg Ed and anastrozole 0.5mg twice weekly. I discontinued clomid for 4 months. I saw a new urologist and he has prescribed me HCG 1000units 3x week and keep anastrozole the same. He has no concerns about densensitizing leydig cells. Says it has not happened and he has had men on it for years. My issue is insurance does not cover the HCG. The vial that I am getting is 10000 units. So a vial will last me about 3 weeks. It costs $120 per vial through compounding pharmacy. So I will be dishing out around $2000 a year. My wife and are going to begin attempting to conceive our first child in the upcoming months. My ideal choice would be to go on weekly testosterone injections with low dose HCG after we conceive and then for further children down the line come off testosterone when the time comes and up the HCG +/- clomid. I'll be posting in this forum my response to hcg. I would appreciate any input.
Starting HCG monotherapy
- Thread starter Rjh8492
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Did my first subq injection on Thursday 9/7/17. 1000units. Too soon to tell anything. Had my first strong erection when the wife and I messed around yesterday. Probably just coincidence though. Plan on doing my injections Sunday Tuesday Thursday. Then anastrozole 0.5mg Monday Friday. Thankful clomid is finally getting out of my system. Was having the worse insomnia and depression while on. Dealing with a herniated L4-5 disc at the moment. So the low t and the injury is really getting into my head. Bench is still 255 8-10reps. To put things into perspective I was doing 525lb deadlifts off of 4 inch boxes 2 months ago and right now 135 x10 off the floor is painful. Not really sure how i injured it. Because I never felt an injury. Literally just woke up one day with a little tightness that has progressively worsened. I have a Physical therapy friend and have been receiving traction that helps alot. I have backed off of the squatting and deadlifting but I am an er nurse and my job requires me to stand for 12 hours and lift people. Which is very demanding on the spine even with proper technique.
I am in favor of bioidentical stuff too. But I think HCG can desensitize you to some hormones, in a similar fashion as T.
Actually, my concern is more about desensitizing to GnRH. Can't this happen?
Can you also elaborate why you don't believe in desensitized leydig cells?
Thanks mate.
Vince, how do you put this disclaimer in your signature? I wanted to do the same, but can't find the option in the settings area of my profile to edit signature.
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[h=4]Basic Information[/b] [h=5]I am not a medical practitioner. Any suggestions I provide are not medical recommendations and are just my opinions. Please consult with your physician on any matters concerning your health.[/b]
[h=4]I don't know if this option is available to everyone, you can PM Nelson.[/b]
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Did my 4th shot yesterday. Today feeling pretty down, fatigues, lack of energy or motivation. Probably being unrealistic but I was hoping I would be feeling improvement in symptoms. Still no change in energy, libido isn't there but erectile dysfunction seems to have resolved, my mood just continues to be up and down. Really just want to do the Dr lipshultz protocol of trt 100-140mg and 500 units HCG eod. More and more I read HCG or clomid simply does not provide the same subjective benefits of trt regardless of levels. I have friends who are on trt and they noticed dramatic improvements within 1-2 weeks of starting.
Also I forgot to mention. Dr. Melograno does not want me taking anastrozole until labs are drawn. So i stopped taking it on week 1. I dont have any sorry nipples or anything indicating e2 is high. I do supplement with DIM 150mg daily and tumeric. Which are supposed to help with estrogen. Also my lab work will include a thyroid panel as he mentioned my numbers from a previous test are borderline. Also doing my sleep study tonight and MRI for my lower back tomorrow. If they recommend surgery for my lower back I am going to probably pay out of pocket for stem cell treatment.
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