Scrotal application?

[johann]

It has been some discussion about scrotal application of testosterone.

Does anyone here have more info about that?

1) Is that a special cream or just the regular T-gel?

2) If you are taking cyponite, and add the scrotal do you lower the dose of cyponite or?

3) Do you have to test your DHT if you want to go this route?

Will think of some more Q..
Johann

 

[Dansk]

I am looking for more thoughts about this also, in particular compounded TRT creams.

 

[Vince Carter]

The forum has an excellent search engine that needs to be used:

Search results for query: scrotal t cream

 

[johann]

The forum has an excellent search engine that needs to be used:

Search results for query: scrotal t cream

Have been doing that, have not found the anwser to those Q, but I will keep looking. Thanks Vince.

 

[JimBob]

You might also join the TOT Roundtable this Wed., and ask Dr. Nichols in the chat room. He seems to have somewhat "popularized" this delivery system.

 

[johann]

You might also join the TOT Roundtable this Wed., and ask Dr. Nichols in the chat room. He seems to have somewhat "popularized" this delivery system.

Thanks JimBob, I will try to find that and figure out how chat room works?

 

[JimBob]

Thanks JimBob, I will try to find that and figure out how chat room works?

TOT Doctors Roundtable on YouTube, usually at 4pm, We'd... sometimes 5pm. Chatroom is simple.

 

[johann]

TOT Doctors Roundtable on YouTube, usually at 4pm, We'd... sometimes 5pm. Chatroom is simple.

Thanks.
I think I found it, but working at this time

 

[johann]

The forum has an excellent search engine that needs to be used:

Search results for query: scrotal t cream

Hi Vince I have been looking pretty well and do not see any anwser to those Q.
I know you are doing this protocol, so maybe you could help?

 

[YBWV]

It has been some discussion about scrotal application of testosterone.

Does anyone here have more info about that?

1) Is that a special cream or just the regular T-gel?

2) If you are taking cyponite, and add the scrotal do you lower the dose of cyponite or?

3) Do you have to test your DHT if you want to go this route?

Will think of some more Q..
Johann

1) T Cream compounded is usually preferred: efficacy/absorbency/cost and comfort - alcohol in gels can irritate sensitive genital skin.

2) There are no "rules". Adding a measure of T Cream to your usual dose of T Cyp will raise your TT and, by aromatase, your E2. Effectively you're increasing the total amount of bioidentical, aromatisable Testostrerone that you are using.
The benefits come from the disproportionately high 5-ar conversion to DHT from the creams which improves the DHT:E2 ratio.
So the choice, and the potential outcome, as ever are individual.

3) The 2nd rule is there are still no rules. You don't "have" to get the serum level of DHT measured though I believe it's a good idea as I do find the level to reflect the subjective benefits of increasing DHT. Many providers appear not to routinely test DHT: studies have shown that serum DHT, moreso than the other sex hormones, only provides a "hint" of what's going on at receptor and in tissue. I believe the DHT test is also one of the more expensive elements of a bloods panel.

 

[Vince Carter]

I concur with @YBWV and will only add that this IMHO would only be appropriate to treat a low DHT condition that persists thru normal TRT; injections. If DHT tests in the lower % of the lab range then this would be a fair additive to the injections protocol.

This works very well for me, I test at about 40 on a 16-79 lab scale with just Cyp. When I apply the cream @ 25mg and test 2 hours later my DHT is at appx 100. My DHT returns to baseline levels @ 24hrs so I have to use it every day if I want to raise my DHT.

 

[johann]

1) T Cream compounded is usually preferred: efficacy/absorbency/cost and comfort - alcohol in gels can irritate sensitive genital skin.

2) There are no "rules". Adding a measure of T Cream to your usual dose of T Cyp will raise your TT and, by aromatase, your E2. Effectively you're increasing the total amount of bioidentical, aromatisable Testostrerone that you are using.
The benefits come from the disproportionately high 5-ar conversion to DHT from the creams which improves the DHT:E2 ratio.
So the choice, and the potential outcome, as ever are individual.

3) The 2nd rule is there are still no rules. You don't "have" to get the serum level of DHT measured though I believe it's a good idea as I do find the level to reflect the subjective benefits of increasing DHT. Many providers appear not to routinely test DHT: studies have shown that serum DHT, moreso than the other sex hormones, only provides a "hint" of what's going on at receptor and in tissue. I believe the DHT test is also one of the more expensive elements of a bloods panel.

Thanks Vince.
I think I saw that you are taking 25mg cream right?
Im taking 100mg cyponite a week, if I would add 25mg cream 1x a day would it be good to drop the cyponite down to 80mg a week or you think i should drop it more?
Thanks so much for the info, its not much out there about this
Johann

 

[Vince Carter]

Applying to the scrotum should be very largely biased toward DHT conversion and I see no need to adjust your Cyp dose down. I would only change one thing at a time and if you change this and your dose you can be left wondering what worked or what did not.

 

[johann]

Applying to the scrotum should be very largely biased toward DHT conversion and I see no need to adjust your Cyp dose down. I would only change one thing at a time and if you change this and your dose you can be left wondering what worked or what did not.

Yes, my TT is running at 1000-1200+ at my dose just dont want to get it higer.

 

[johann]

I concur with @YBWV and will only add that this IMHO would only be appropriate to treat a low DHT condition that persists thru normal TRT; injections. If DHT tests in the lower % of the lab range then this would be a fair additive to the injections protocol.

This works very well for me, I test at about 40 on a 16-79 lab scale with just Cyp. When I apply the cream @ 25mg and test 2 hours later my DHT is at appx 100. My DHT returns to baseline levels @ 24hrs so I have to use it every day if I want to raise my DHT.

I was just talking to my Dr, he is at Kaiser so they do not work with compound pharmacy, but he is willing to prescribe T-gel, Can that be used?

 

[JimBob]

Alcohol based gels burn.

 

[johann]

Alcohol based gels burn.

Yes, I bet..
But that is the only thing that Kaiser has
It will cost to much to go tho another dr jut to get a script for T-cream

 

[Vince Carter]

Im not sure if all the commercial preparations are alcohol based or not but yes would typically be unkind to you ball skin.

 

[johann]

Im not sure if all the commercial preparations are alcohol based or not but yes would typically be unkind to you ball skin.

Yes my dr told me all that they have at Kaiser is alcohol based But he is willing to prescripe 25mg in addition to my protocol.

 

[Tommy Wall]

Why not try the new gel Testavan?