Racer 5 HRT

[racer5]

Hello All,
I've been reading quite a bit and staying in the background for quite a while now. I've been on HRT since November 2014 under the supervision of an Anti Aging Clinic. Everything was great up until 3 weeks ago. I have a couple of questions but first here is the background leading up to today.

The following was my normal protocol for the last 4 months. I apologize for not knowing the clinical quantities:
50 mg DHEA Daily
50 mg Pregnalone Daily
2 Drops 2% Lygos Solution Daily
.35 ml Test Cyp 2x per week
.25 Nandralone 2 x per week
.5 HCG 2 x per week

About 3 weeks ago, I felt my left nipple had a hard spot behind it and the left nipple was tender. I've been wanting to cry at the drop of a hat and I've been arguing with my family. Spoke to my doctor and he prescribed .5 mg Anastrozole 3 times per week and ordered a blood test. I took the test 6 days after my last injection of Test Cyp, HCG and Nandralone. During those 6 days before the test, I took .5mg of the Anastrazole as prescribed (3 time). Here are the results of the blood test:
Estrone unable to report due to possible interfering substance
Estradiol 41 High < or = 39 pg/ml
Total Test 625 250-1100 ng/dl
Free Test 84.5 35.0-155 pg/ml

The doctor reviewed the test with me over the phone. He suggested I take .5mg of Anastrazole 5 times a week and continue with my regular protocol. Here are my questions:

#1 Do you think taking .5mg of Anastrazole 5 times a week is overdoing it for the lab result of only 41 on the Estradiol test?

#2 Does 625 Total Test and 84.5 Free Test seem a little low after 6 days of not pinning?

#3 I was prescribed Amoxicilyne for acne on my shoulders and back. Does that seem right?

#4 Can I continue to take the Nandralone for this long or is it meant to cycle on and off?

#5 I've searched for a thread that explains clinical quantities of the injectibles because I just don't understand terms like iu and dl. Can someone show me some literature on this?

I've searched and these are the things I can't answer for myself. I thank all of you all in advance.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Hello All,


#1 Do you think taking .5mg of Anastrazole 5 times a week is overdoing it for the lab result of only 41 on the Estradiol test?

#2 Does 625 Total Test and 84.5 Free Test seem a little low after 6 days of not pinning?

#3 I was prescribed Amoxicilyne for acne on my shoulders and back. Does that seem right?

#4 Can I continue to take the Nandralone for this long or is it meant to cycle on and off?

#5 I've searched for a thread that explains clinical quantities of the injectibles because I just don't understand terms like iu and dl. Can someone show me some literature on this?

I've searched and these are the things I can't answer for myself. I thank all of you all in advance.

Answers:

1- Did you get estradiol tested by sensitive assay? 41 pg/mL seems a little high for your anastrozole dose.

2- If you take .35 mg twice per week of T, why did you spend 6 days without injecting?

3- Yes, it is prescribed for severe cases. You can also try pantethine (oral) and Nizoral shampoo as a body wash.

4- That is a low dose of nandrolone. I do not see why you would harm yourself continuing its use (unless your hematocrit is high. Where is your hematocrit value?)

5- Al androgen injectables are measured in mg. Blood values are shown in the US in ng/dL or pg/mL. Peptides are usually specified as IU (as HCG).

What is an IU? When measuring testosterone we spoke in weights of grams and milligrams. HCG is measured not by weight but in IU's, or international units. IU is not about weight but refers to the amount of a substance that produces a particular biologic effect that has been agreed upon as in international standard. The IU from one substance to the next does not mean they have equivalent weights (for example, 1, 000 IU of vitamin C might have a different weight than 1,000 IU of vitamin A). Again, IU is not a weight.

 

[racer5]

Hello Nigel,
Thanks for your response. I've watched a couple of your video chats and respect your opinion.

#1 I'm not sure if it was the sensitive test. I've attached the results from Quest Lab. Maybe you can tell me.
#2 Because I was having nipple sensitivity, moodiness and have a hard spot behind the nipple, I was told by my doctor to stop the Test, HCG and Nadralone for 6 days so I could take my blood test to see my Test values and Estradiol values. My doctor has always had me wait 6 days since my last injection before taking blood tests. Do you subscribe to a different method?
#3 Thank you. I'm also using a salicylic acid body wash.
#4 I don't know why he has me on Nandralone. My Hematocrit level in November 2014 was at 48.7 (38.5 to 50)
#5 Thanks for the explanation. I will look at my bottles and try to decipher what I'm actually taking instead of giving people the ml value of the syringe that I fill.

My doctor wnats to do tests in 2 weeks (Total and Free Test, Estradiol). Can you suggest additional tests that I should be taking?

 

[Nelson Vergel]

1- Yes, your test is the sensitive one

2- Just take 0.5 mg once or twice per week of anastrozole. I would not stop your regimen.

4- I bet he has you on a low dose nandrolone to increase free T (your doc is progressive. Who is he?)

5- Most injectables come in 1-10 ml bottles. Nandrolone and testosterone in the US usually come in 200 mg/ml.

 

[racer5]

Hi Nelson,

#1 How can you tell?
#2 Will do. I'm thinking I should take the Anastrazole 24 hours after I take the Test, HCG and Nandralone. What do you think?
#4 I'll ask him why he is prescribing the low dose of Nandralone in 2 weeks after my next blood test. I'll PM his info to you.
#5 Thank you for the info.

What additional tests do you think I should have done in the next 2 weeks? Hematocrit?
Should I try to take a test immediately after my treatment toi see the upper level of what I'm taking?

Thank you so much for taking the time to comment Nelson.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

#1 Your estradiol test was based on liquid chromatography (the right assay).
#2 That is fine

Blood Tests Needed Before and During Testosterone Replacement Therapy

 

[racer5]

Thanks Nelson!

I think I've figured out the measurements of my protocol for the injectibles.

Test Cyp 70mg 2 x per week
Nandrolone Deconate 50mg 2 x per week
HCG 500iu 2 x per week

Does anybody know if that sounds correct?

 

[ERO]

Those sound like reasonable doses

 

[racer5]

Thanks a bunch Ero and Nelson. Great forum we have here.

 

[racer5]

Hello All,
I'm a little late with my update, but here it is anyway. If you recall, I was having tender nipple issues, a small lump and moodiness. The lump is gone, nipples are no longer tender and moodiness is gone. This is based on my current dosage:

.5 mg anastrazole 3x per week
70 mg Test Cyp 2x per week
50mg nandralone 2x per week
500iu HCG 2x per week

Here are the latest results of tests taken last week:

Estrone 27 < or = to 68 pg/ml
Estradiol 34 < or = to 39 pg/ml
Total Test 713 250 to 1100 ng/dl
Free Test 106.9 35.0 - 155 pg/ml

I was thinking about reducing my Anastrozole intake to .5mg 2x per week 24hours after my HCG and Test injection. What are your thoughts?
Please note the Estradiol is at 34 with an upper limit of 39.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

Was the estradiol measured via sensitive assay?

Yes, cut down your anastrozole. .25 twice per week may be good enough.

How are you feeling?

How are your blood pressure and hematocrit?

 

[racer5]

Hi Nelson,

I was hoping to hear from you. Although I missed half of your last hang out, I enjoyed it.

Yes it was sensitive (LC)
OK. .25 mg twice a week is much less than I expected
Feeling tired at times
Have not checked blood pressure or hematocrit. I think I may do it separately through Discount Labs. Do you find this to be important for the overall picture?

Thanks!

 

[Nelson Vergel]

racer5

You can watch all hangouts and read transcripts here:

http://fabfitover40.com/2015/07/24/fabfit-hangout-rewind-trt-and-estradiol-management-in-men/
http://fabfitover40.com/2015/06/22/trt-controversies-misconceptions-and-solutions/
https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...h-and-Lies-About-Fat-Loss-Supplements&p=23636


Yes, I think no man out there on TRT should miss monitoring hematocrit and blood pressure, two variables that are impacted by testosterone.
http://www.discountedlabs.com/complete-blood-count-cbc-includes-hematocrit/

 

[racer5]

Hi Nelson,

I didn't see your message posted last month. For some reason I didn't get an email notification. Sorry I didn't respond. Thank you for the links!

I accidentally forgot to store my HCG in the fridge. I received a new shipment that was sent with cold packs on Friday and it sat in my garage all day Friday and Saturday. I put it in the fridge this morning (Sunday). The HCG was at room temperature when I opened the box. Do you think it went bad?

Thanks ,
Dave

 

[racer5]

Forget it guys. Answered my own question.

"HCG is fairly stable at room temperature for short periods of time. 1 week out in the open won't significantly affect the activity of the drug"

 

[racer5]

Hi All,

Here are my latest lab tests taken 4 days after my last injection while I was fasting from the night before. It's a very very detailed test of all sorts of things and I am not too happy with the results. It's a mess and I'm really worried.

Symptoms: I have a very tight prostate and get up in the middle of the night several times just to dribble out a 1/4 cup of urine.

Areas of worry: AST and ALT, Homosystein, IGF, Hemoglobin and hematocrit, estrone and estradiol, Free Testosterone, T3 at upper limit. There are other areas that are low or high but I think these are the main ones.

Current Protocol:
.35 Test Cyp 2 x per week
.25 Nandralone 2 x per week
.5 HCG 2 x per week
.5 Anastrazole 2 x per week
2 drops Lugos Solution every morning

I started out with the intention of a better well being and now I feel as if I am putting myself in danger. I'd like to fix it and give it another year before giving up, so any comments as to what should be done are greatly appreciated.


Thank you!

 

[ERO]

I have read many anecdotal reports that Cialis can open a tight prostate very quickly on a small daily dose of like 5mg. I doubt that it is every prescribed for that use, but it would be worth a try.

 

[jabbahop]

I was put on cialis 5mg for the enlarged prostate and waking at night. It seemed to be working after a few days but I developed some major pain and cramping in legs so I discontinued. And switched to another med that isn't quite as effective but no bad side effects for me.

it is worth trying the cialis though it is expensive if not covered.

 

[Vince]

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[racer5]

Thanks guys. I'll think about the Cialis, however the last thing I want to do is add another drug to my program. I just feel that what I already have going on needs to be tweaked.