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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
Putting TRT on hold to regain fertility. Should I Keep using hCG + Clomid/Torem?
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<blockquote data-quote="Nelson Vergel" data-source="post: 61126" data-attributes="member: 3"><p>Dafox</p><p>That is the best reference to date (and recent:2016) on the subject of spermatogenesis recovery after stopping TRT.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As you can see, it summarizes studies of different combinations</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]3120[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]3121[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>It also contains this paragraph</p><p></p><p><strong>Maintenance of spermatogenesis before beginning or during TRT</strong></p><p><strong>or AAS use</strong></p><p></p><p>A second scenario is a patient who wishes to preserve existing</p><p>spermatogenesis before beginning TRT or AAS use. Maintenance of</p><p>normal ITT levels is critically necessary to maintain spermatogenesis.</p><p>hCG has proven to maintain ITT levels with doses as low as 500 IU</p><p>every other day. Clinical data evaluating higher doses of hCG given</p><p>as monotherapy (500&#8211;2500 IU twice weekly), or low-dose hCG (500 IU</p><p>every other day) in combination with TRT, have demonstrated</p><p>satisfactory results for maintaining spermatogenesis, and either</p><p>would be a good choice as recommended by these authors.</p><p></p><p>This is a table that summarizes the HCG+TRT data from Lipshultz group</p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]3123[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Source:</p><p>Asian Journal of Andrology (2016) 18, 373&#8211;380</p><p></p><p></p><p>They also reference this study done by Lipshultz group in Houston that gave men who stopped TRT clomiphene+HCG protocol (72% of men, others on anastrozole or tamoxifen plus HCG): </p><p></p><p><strong><a href="https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/111925/jsm12890.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y" target="_blank"><strong>The Use <strong>of HCG-<strong>Based <strong>Combination <strong>Therapy <strong>for Recovery <strong>of Spermatogenesis <strong>after <strong>Testosterone <strong>Use</strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></strong></a></strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is their results (too bad they did not have a HCG and a Clomid-only arms to compare). We really cannot conclude if adding HCG really helped Clomid or anastrozole to work faster at sperm normalization.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH]3122[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nelson Vergel, post: 61126, member: 3"] Dafox That is the best reference to date (and recent:2016) on the subject of spermatogenesis recovery after stopping TRT. As you can see, it summarizes studies of different combinations [ATTACH=CONFIG]3120[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=CONFIG]3121[/ATTACH] It also contains this paragraph [B]Maintenance of spermatogenesis before beginning or during TRT or AAS use[/B] A second scenario is a patient who wishes to preserve existing spermatogenesis before beginning TRT or AAS use. Maintenance of normal ITT levels is critically necessary to maintain spermatogenesis. hCG has proven to maintain ITT levels with doses as low as 500 IU every other day. Clinical data evaluating higher doses of hCG given as monotherapy (500–2500 IU twice weekly), or low-dose hCG (500 IU every other day) in combination with TRT, have demonstrated satisfactory results for maintaining spermatogenesis, and either would be a good choice as recommended by these authors. This is a table that summarizes the HCG+TRT data from Lipshultz group [ATTACH=CONFIG]3123[/ATTACH] Source: Asian Journal of Andrology (2016) 18, 373–380 They also reference this study done by Lipshultz group in Houston that gave men who stopped TRT clomiphene+HCG protocol (72% of men, others on anastrozole or tamoxifen plus HCG): [B][URL="https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/111925/jsm12890.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y"][B]The Use [B]of HCG-[B]Based [B]Combination [B]Therapy [B]for Recovery [B]of Spermatogenesis [B]after [B]Testosterone [B]Use[/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/B][/URL][/B] Here is their results (too bad they did not have a HCG and a Clomid-only arms to compare). We really cannot conclude if adding HCG really helped Clomid or anastrozole to work faster at sperm normalization. [ATTACH=CONFIG]3122[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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