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On TRT, Now With Defy - Labs and Protocol
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<blockquote data-quote="seaexplorer" data-source="post: 66427" data-attributes="member: 15150"><p>This is very interesting to see mention of Methadone and Suboxone here. In my "past life" I got myself into a mess with pain pills, after a rough knee reconstruction and wound up on suboxone "maintenance therapy". This is something I deeply regret. I was on that stuff for 5 years. This so-called maintenance therapy is insane. <u>Suboxone is a very powerful <strong>opiate</strong></u> with a very long half life and as a result your opiate receptors are flooded 24x7. What do you think happens when our opiate receptors are flooded non stop for years? It's not a good thing, and when one stops, the body takes a long while to begin making its own endorphins. This is conveniently not mentioned by the prescribing Drs or the fancy marketing literature. The Drs who prescribe it are effectively legal drug dealers. (The vast majority of these Drs insist on cash only and good luck with insurance -- this is usually a $300-$500 per month expense.). Sure, the first couple years is great but this drug will mess up your brain chemistry bad and you will feel it "eventually" in the form of becoming emotionally numb. Suboxone is an excellent detox tool, meaning for short term use, but to be on it long term is insane.</p><p></p><p>its very very tough to get off of the stuff! I tried a couple cold turkey attempts but I got very intense restless leg syndrome where I literally thought I was being tortured. Others have different experiences but none of them are pleasant. I finally was able to get off that stuff after doing a 7 month taper, and for a good portion of that time I felt like crap. Yes, that's right, 7 months. It honestly took a good 6 months later to start to feel somewhat normal and I suspect it is because my brain chemistry was so messed up by not producing endorphins due to all its receptors being flooded for so long.</p><p></p><p>Ive been off that stuff for a few years now and my past opiate problems are long gone. When I see mention of suboxone, it brings bad very bad memories. Life is infinitely better being totally free of this heavy opiate use. If I had to go back and do it again, I wouldn't.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seaexplorer, post: 66427, member: 15150"] This is very interesting to see mention of Methadone and Suboxone here. In my "past life" I got myself into a mess with pain pills, after a rough knee reconstruction and wound up on suboxone "maintenance therapy". This is something I deeply regret. I was on that stuff for 5 years. This so-called maintenance therapy is insane. [U]Suboxone is a very powerful [B]opiate[/B][/U] with a very long half life and as a result your opiate receptors are flooded 24x7. What do you think happens when our opiate receptors are flooded non stop for years? It's not a good thing, and when one stops, the body takes a long while to begin making its own endorphins. This is conveniently not mentioned by the prescribing Drs or the fancy marketing literature. The Drs who prescribe it are effectively legal drug dealers. (The vast majority of these Drs insist on cash only and good luck with insurance -- this is usually a $300-$500 per month expense.). Sure, the first couple years is great but this drug will mess up your brain chemistry bad and you will feel it "eventually" in the form of becoming emotionally numb. Suboxone is an excellent detox tool, meaning for short term use, but to be on it long term is insane. its very very tough to get off of the stuff! I tried a couple cold turkey attempts but I got very intense restless leg syndrome where I literally thought I was being tortured. Others have different experiences but none of them are pleasant. I finally was able to get off that stuff after doing a 7 month taper, and for a good portion of that time I felt like crap. Yes, that's right, 7 months. It honestly took a good 6 months later to start to feel somewhat normal and I suspect it is because my brain chemistry was so messed up by not producing endorphins due to all its receptors being flooded for so long. Ive been off that stuff for a few years now and my past opiate problems are long gone. When I see mention of suboxone, it brings bad very bad memories. Life is infinitely better being totally free of this heavy opiate use. If I had to go back and do it again, I wouldn't. [/QUOTE]
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