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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Blood Test Discussion
Newish Member from Canada (Pre-TRT Bloodwork Inside)
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<blockquote data-quote="madman" data-source="post: 130599" data-attributes="member: 13851"><p>As I stated of course symptoms is what matters but again one also needs blood work to show that testosterone levels are low or sub-par as in (low normal) and in order to get a complete picture one can not just look at TT as some men can have a descent TT but a low or sub-par FT due to having high SHBG and there are also some men that can have an average TT but still have a healthy FT due to having low SHBG.</p><p></p><p>At a minimum FT and SHBG levels need to be known as even though it is important to know ones TT….. FT is what truly matters as it is the unbound active fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive benefits.</p><p></p><p>In your situation your TT is robust and unless you have high SHBG (which you have no clue) for all we know if your SHBG is normal (mid range) or slightly lower you would have descent FT levels.</p><p></p><p>Just to throw some scenarios out there we will use the Law of Mass Action calculated Free Testosterone (Vermuelen) method: <a href="http://www.issam.ch/freetesto.htm" target="_blank">Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator</a></p><p></p><p>Your TT is 694.5 ng/dL and seeing as we have no idea what your SHBG is.....lets say it is near the high end 60 nmol/L of the reference range which was 10-70 nmol/L and was recently changed to 10-60 nmol/L at both labs (Dynacare and Lifelabs in Canada).</p><p></p><p>If we take your TT and SHBG using the Free & Bioavailable Testosterone Calculator (Vermuelen) method.</p><p></p><p>With a TT of 694.5 ng/dL and SHBG of 60 nmol/L than your FT would be 1.49% and BT 34.8%</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now lets say your SHBG was normal (mid-range) which would be 35 nmol/L.</p><p></p><p>With a TT of 694.5 ng/dL and SHBG of 35 nmol/L than your FT would be 2.16% and BT 50.7%</p><p></p><p>Most men need FT 2-3% of TT and even than many do not need to have FT near or at 3% as many do well closer to 2%.</p><p></p><p>Every individual is different and ones SHBG will play a big role in what TT level one needs in order to achieve a healthy FT.</p><p></p><p>In your situation FT nor SHBG was tested so pre-trt you have no idea where your FT levels sit and with a TT of 694.5 ng/dl (almost 700) unless your SHBG is high..... you should have a descent FT level.</p><p></p><p>I think you should have had the proper testing done before jumping on trt.</p><p></p><p>Depending on ones situation there are other methods one can try before using exogenous testosterone!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="madman, post: 130599, member: 13851"] As I stated of course symptoms is what matters but again one also needs blood work to show that testosterone levels are low or sub-par as in (low normal) and in order to get a complete picture one can not just look at TT as some men can have a descent TT but a low or sub-par FT due to having high SHBG and there are also some men that can have an average TT but still have a healthy FT due to having low SHBG. At a minimum FT and SHBG levels need to be known as even though it is important to know ones TT….. FT is what truly matters as it is the unbound active fraction of testosterone responsible for the positive benefits. In your situation your TT is robust and unless you have high SHBG (which you have no clue) for all we know if your SHBG is normal (mid range) or slightly lower you would have descent FT levels. Just to throw some scenarios out there we will use the Law of Mass Action calculated Free Testosterone (Vermuelen) method: [URL='http://www.issam.ch/freetesto.htm']Free & Bioavailable Testosterone calculator[/URL] Your TT is 694.5 ng/dL and seeing as we have no idea what your SHBG is.....lets say it is near the high end 60 nmol/L of the reference range which was 10-70 nmol/L and was recently changed to 10-60 nmol/L at both labs (Dynacare and Lifelabs in Canada). If we take your TT and SHBG using the Free & Bioavailable Testosterone Calculator (Vermuelen) method. With a TT of 694.5 ng/dL and SHBG of 60 nmol/L than your FT would be 1.49% and BT 34.8% Now lets say your SHBG was normal (mid-range) which would be 35 nmol/L. With a TT of 694.5 ng/dL and SHBG of 35 nmol/L than your FT would be 2.16% and BT 50.7% Most men need FT 2-3% of TT and even than many do not need to have FT near or at 3% as many do well closer to 2%. Every individual is different and ones SHBG will play a big role in what TT level one needs in order to achieve a healthy FT. In your situation FT nor SHBG was tested so pre-trt you have no idea where your FT levels sit and with a TT of 694.5 ng/dl (almost 700) unless your SHBG is high..... you should have a descent FT level. I think you should have had the proper testing done before jumping on trt. Depending on ones situation there are other methods one can try before using exogenous testosterone! [/QUOTE]
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