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Testosterone Replacement, Low T, HCG, & Beyond
Testosterone Side Effect Management
New Protocol, Elevated RHR/Poor Sleep/Eye Floaters. Abort or Stay the Course?
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<blockquote data-quote="eyeheartny" data-source="post: 166902" data-attributes="member: 18882"><p>I’m on nandrolone at Defy’s suggestion to help balance my E2: Free T ratio. I was at around a 2:1 before and the PA at Defy wanted to try getting me to 1:1 without using an AI as I’m not willing to use AIs long term and always felt like garbage when I’ve tried them (both arimidex and exemestane). </p><p></p><p>I have struggled with water retention for many years (on TRT for nearly 8 years) and the initial goal of the propionate trial was to see if the shorter ester helped reduce water retention. It did not, and my trough levels were really low (TT 348, free t 9.2, E2 17) while my peak values quite high (TT 1300, E2 53) even on daily injections. Those big swings were just rough on my body. I didn’t ask for nandrolone but Defy suggested it and I was willing to try it at their suggestion due to its lower aromatization profile compared to testosterone.</p><p></p><p>I’ve been up as much as 175mg/week on test only and was bloated and fatigued. 125-140 seems to have been a good spot for me. Trough values around 580-600 and E2 around 30ish. I still had water retention at those numbers.</p><p></p><p>I did talk to Defy about trying a diuretic at some point to see if that helped. The one good thing about the propionate trial is that I slept better. The Defy PA suggested it may have been due to lowered E2.</p><p></p><p>I haven’t checked my BP as I don’t have a monitor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eyeheartny, post: 166902, member: 18882"] I’m on nandrolone at Defy’s suggestion to help balance my E2: Free T ratio. I was at around a 2:1 before and the PA at Defy wanted to try getting me to 1:1 without using an AI as I’m not willing to use AIs long term and always felt like garbage when I’ve tried them (both arimidex and exemestane). I have struggled with water retention for many years (on TRT for nearly 8 years) and the initial goal of the propionate trial was to see if the shorter ester helped reduce water retention. It did not, and my trough levels were really low (TT 348, free t 9.2, E2 17) while my peak values quite high (TT 1300, E2 53) even on daily injections. Those big swings were just rough on my body. I didn’t ask for nandrolone but Defy suggested it and I was willing to try it at their suggestion due to its lower aromatization profile compared to testosterone. I’ve been up as much as 175mg/week on test only and was bloated and fatigued. 125-140 seems to have been a good spot for me. Trough values around 580-600 and E2 around 30ish. I still had water retention at those numbers. I did talk to Defy about trying a diuretic at some point to see if that helped. The one good thing about the propionate trial is that I slept better. The Defy PA suggested it may have been due to lowered E2. I haven’t checked my BP as I don’t have a monitor. [/QUOTE]
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