New member and just started TRT

[Goel]

Hi Guys!

58 yr old mountain biker at 6'1" and 177 lbs. Brain fog, zero motivation, low energy unless I dose heavily with caffeine, ED and vanishing libido and the order of those is the priority of what I want to address w/ TRT.

I went to my PCP a few years ago and had to insist on testosterone blood test before they'd agree. When it came back at mid-300 they blew me off with "you're normal". So I found a local doctor specializing in bHRT and showed him the same labs who put that "normal" in better perspective for me. We started an incremental approach including sublingual which helped in big enough doses, but I needed more than that delivery method could provide. So we tried Clomid and while the labs showed improvement I did NOT like the way I felt on it so stopped and stayed off anything for a couple years while I changed jobs.

About a month ago, I went back to the same Dr. who put me on Test-Cyp 100mg per week. I've now taken two IM injections and don't feel anything yet - too soon, I know. My starting labs (before beginning program) were:

427 Total T
12.17 Free T

I found it interesting that my lab numbers were higher than when I first started this journey a few years ago; but I attribute that to (a) my blood draw was in the morning when T is higher, and (b) I've been spending more time on the bike lately.

So now I'm here to compare notes with others on the same path - those ahead and those beginning.

Thanks!

 

[Vince]

100 MG of testosterone cypionate and you feel nothing? Somethings wrong, can you post your complete set of labs?

 

[Vince]

A couple of thoughts. You should probably inject 50 mg of testosterone cypionate twice a week. No AI. Even though the needle may not reach your muscle, I would use an easy touch 27g 1/2 inch syringe. It's very easy to use and mostly painless. I would inject into shoulders, watch Nelson's video injecting HCG and testosterone. After 6 to 12 weeks have labs and then adjust your protocol. Maybe you can and in HCG after having labs.

 

[Goel]

100 MG of testosterone cypionate and you feel nothing? Somethings wrong, can you post your complete set of labs?

I've only taken my second dose this past Friday, so it's probably too soon, based on this:

Onset of effects of testosterone treatment and time span until maximum effects are achieved - PMC

Testosterone has a spectrum of effects on the male organism. This review attempts to determine, from published studies, the time-course of the effects induced by testosterone replacement therapy from their first manifestation until maximum effects ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Doc is going to do full labs after 6 weeks and we'll see what adjustments he wants then. Previous full labs was almost 2 yrs ago when I was trying Clomid so that data wouldn't be helpful now.

The test-cyp I have is in cottonseed oil and I'm administering with a 22g, I'm not sure it'll flow through a 27g in that oil since it takes notable pressure to get it though the 22g. Of course that could also be because I'm new to injecting.

 

[Systemlord]

Brain fog, zero motivation, low energy unless I dose heavily with caffeine, ED and vanishing libido and the order of those is the priority of what I want to address w/ TRT.

The severity of your symptoms just doesn't correlate well with your testosterone labs. You should have felt something by now and for the fact you haven't at least felt a minor improvement is very telling.

I found it interesting that my lab numbers were higher than when I first started this journey a few years ago; but I attribute that to (a) my blood draw was in the morning when T is higher, and (b) I've been spending more time on the bike lately.

Many things affect testosterone, excersise, sleep (huge impact) and diet. A natural daily fluctuation is another factor for changes in testosterone from one lab draw to another.

 

[Goel]

The severity of your symptoms just doesn't correlate well with your testosterone labs. You should have felt something by now and for the fact you haven't at least felt a minor improvement is very telling.

Many things affect testosterone, excersise, sleep (huge impact) and diet.

in 10 days? Hm, OK.

I haven't slept well in ... well most all of my life. I did have a sleep study a couple years ago that showed nothing of concern, no apnea or anything else. I can usually get to sleep OK, but often wake up at 3:00am and have a hard time getting back to sleep.