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<blockquote data-quote="vpomer" data-source="post: 108027" data-attributes="member: 17114"><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Whats up guys,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">New guy to the board but not to the game of HRT and bodybulding</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">A little bit about me and whats going on with me</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Im 48 years old 5 feet 4 inches about 190lbs about 10 percent bodyfat been training for about 20+ years been taking testosterone for past 15 years, typical HRT dose between 100-200mgs weekly</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">ok now whats going on with me now hold on cause its very bizarre about 5 years ago maybe longer i just dont have any blood work to confirm it testosterone just stopped working for me.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Been feeling like shit for several years now, training sucked could hardly make it to gym, my whole body aches me from head to toe, Tired all the time, bloated, no appetite, get up in morning feel like ive been run over by truck thats how bad i would ache, my back middle of my back,knees, shoulders, elbows,etc its hast been fun past few years.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Spend Thousands of dollars going to natuapaths, supplements, etc, didnt know what the hell was wrong with me</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">finally decided to go see a HRT specialist anyway i go see him he tells me to go off of everything i was like what, now granted im only on 120 mgs test even though it hasnt work in years im still on it i said i will crash he says deal with it, anyways i did what he told me to do few weeks later i crashed just like i thought,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">He ran blood work after 6 weeks i have the labs.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">you want to talk about numbers being tanked my test level was 44 </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">My Dht was 4.7</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">My E2 was 5.4</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Every thing was tanked he ran comprehensive blood work </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">told me to start on 100iu of hcg daily </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">and 40mgs of test c Subq eod</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Ok here the tricky part all leading up to this wanted you guys to get a picture of everything i know i get longwinded</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">for some reason now like i said test hasnt work for me in years never knew why hers the kicker when i take test weather its 50 mgs or 200 mgs it does not convert to E2 or dht at all,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Theres no conversion at all</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">now granted ever since i started the hcg i feel better then i have in years i kid you not, workouts are great again, feeling pretty good, not great, still achy somewhat, appetite is better, that was just from the hcg no test that i started prior to going back on test, </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">another thing which we cant figure out is when i take a low dose test say 50 mgs within few hours my whole body aches me and i feel like shit, i swear but i can do 200 mgs of test and no issuee i think anyways, or i can do 50 mgs test no ester no issues with any achiness but when i do 50 or even 100 say of test c within hours my whole body aches me feel like crap, almost feels like my body is rejecting the androgens</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">so anyways getting back to experiment i decided to do 250 iu hcg 3x weekly and 200mgs test 1x week</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">tested after about 4 weeks to see my total and free test and E2 didnt run DHT i should have but got lazy</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">this is the numbers, I was also taking 100mgs of DHEA 2x day to see if it would raise my E2</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">total test 1140 range 264-916</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">free test 50 highest it goes probably higher range 6.8-21.5</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">E2 thats the sensitive E2 test 6.1 range 8-35</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">so as you can see 200 mgs of test rose my E2 by .6 percent and thats on top of hcg at 750iu 3x weekly too, since last labs when i was off of test for 6 weeks</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">as you can see the testosterone just does not want to convert to E2 and i can assume my DHT was tanked too,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">also i have very low SHBG as well</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I dont know why its not converting but its causing me all kinds of issues plus i have very low shbg which causes issues in lot of guys cause when its low your body eats up test rapidly thats why they say your better off with micro injections of test either eod or everyday i have tryed that again smaller doses of test make my body ache and turn my face and chest bright red for what ever reason</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">I have an Appt with Defy medical next month they are a hrt clinic and this Dr. Saya is supposed to be really good</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So thats what ive been dealing with i just dont get it whats going on </span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"> trying to figure things out please if any of you guys have any input or feedback please let me know im sure i didnt cover everything i would be hear writing a novel but i figured the more you know the more you might be able to help me</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">At this moment gonna go off of test cause i feel like im getting nothing from it except being bloated which is hard to understand especially when my E2 is in the tank,</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">gonna keep the hcg in and right now maybe try some trestolone to see if that can raise my E2 some</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Ive tryed alot of things past 4 weeks or so nothing seems to be working</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Ill leave it at this dont want to bore you anymore anymore well this one is a mystery here and any help would be grateful </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">please feel free to ask me anything cause again im sure ive missed a few things and you can always ask </span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">sorry for the novel</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">thanks guys</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span>I also have labs i can send to</p><p>Bottom line testosterone hasnt work for many years because i think its not converting to E2 and dht</p><p>and its causing me many issues as i wrote above</p><p>any help or feedback would be grateful just to figure out why this is happening</p><p></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #000000"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vpomer, post: 108027, member: 17114"] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Whats up guys,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]New guy to the board but not to the game of HRT and bodybulding [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]A little bit about me and whats going on with me[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Im 48 years old 5 feet 4 inches about 190lbs about 10 percent bodyfat been training for about 20+ years been taking testosterone for past 15 years, typical HRT dose between 100-200mgs weekly [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]ok now whats going on with me now hold on cause its very bizarre about 5 years ago maybe longer i just dont have any blood work to confirm it testosterone just stopped working for me.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Been feeling like shit for several years now, training sucked could hardly make it to gym, my whole body aches me from head to toe, Tired all the time, bloated, no appetite, get up in morning feel like ive been run over by truck thats how bad i would ache, my back middle of my back,knees, shoulders, elbows,etc its hast been fun past few years. [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Spend Thousands of dollars going to natuapaths, supplements, etc, didnt know what the hell was wrong with me[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]finally decided to go see a HRT specialist anyway i go see him he tells me to go off of everything i was like what, now granted im only on 120 mgs test even though it hasnt work in years im still on it i said i will crash he says deal with it, anyways i did what he told me to do few weeks later i crashed just like i thought,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]He ran blood work after 6 weeks i have the labs.[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]you want to talk about numbers being tanked my test level was 44 [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]My Dht was 4.7[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]My E2 was 5.4[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Every thing was tanked he ran comprehensive blood work [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]told me to start on 100iu of hcg daily [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]and 40mgs of test c Subq eod [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Ok here the tricky part all leading up to this wanted you guys to get a picture of everything i know i get longwinded[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]for some reason now like i said test hasnt work for me in years never knew why hers the kicker when i take test weather its 50 mgs or 200 mgs it does not convert to E2 or dht at all,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Theres no conversion at all[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]now granted ever since i started the hcg i feel better then i have in years i kid you not, workouts are great again, feeling pretty good, not great, still achy somewhat, appetite is better, that was just from the hcg no test that i started prior to going back on test, [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]another thing which we cant figure out is when i take a low dose test say 50 mgs within few hours my whole body aches me and i feel like shit, i swear but i can do 200 mgs of test and no issuee i think anyways, or i can do 50 mgs test no ester no issues with any achiness but when i do 50 or even 100 say of test c within hours my whole body aches me feel like crap, almost feels like my body is rejecting the androgens[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]so anyways getting back to experiment i decided to do 250 iu hcg 3x weekly and 200mgs test 1x week[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]tested after about 4 weeks to see my total and free test and E2 didnt run DHT i should have but got lazy[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]this is the numbers, I was also taking 100mgs of DHEA 2x day to see if it would raise my E2 [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]total test 1140 range 264-916[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]free test 50 highest it goes probably higher range 6.8-21.5[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]E2 thats the sensitive E2 test 6.1 range 8-35 [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]so as you can see 200 mgs of test rose my E2 by .6 percent and thats on top of hcg at 750iu 3x weekly too, since last labs when i was off of test for 6 weeks[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]as you can see the testosterone just does not want to convert to E2 and i can assume my DHT was tanked too, [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]also i have very low SHBG as well [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]I dont know why its not converting but its causing me all kinds of issues plus i have very low shbg which causes issues in lot of guys cause when its low your body eats up test rapidly thats why they say your better off with micro injections of test either eod or everyday i have tryed that again smaller doses of test make my body ache and turn my face and chest bright red for what ever reason [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]I have an Appt with Defy medical next month they are a hrt clinic and this Dr. Saya is supposed to be really good[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]So thats what ive been dealing with i just dont get it whats going on [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana] trying to figure things out please if any of you guys have any input or feedback please let me know im sure i didnt cover everything i would be hear writing a novel but i figured the more you know the more you might be able to help me [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]At this moment gonna go off of test cause i feel like im getting nothing from it except being bloated which is hard to understand especially when my E2 is in the tank,[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]gonna keep the hcg in and right now maybe try some trestolone to see if that can raise my E2 some [/FONT][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Ive tryed alot of things past 4 weeks or so nothing seems to be working[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]Ill leave it at this dont want to bore you anymore anymore well this one is a mystery here and any help would be grateful [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]please feel free to ask me anything cause again im sure ive missed a few things and you can always ask [/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]sorry for the novel[/FONT][/COLOR] [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana]thanks guys [/FONT][/COLOR]I also have labs i can send to Bottom line testosterone hasnt work for many years because i think its not converting to E2 and dht and its causing me many issues as i wrote above any help or feedback would be grateful just to figure out why this is happening [COLOR=#000000][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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