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Need help with T-Cypionate - Vials (Single vs. multiple - What do you guys use?)
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<blockquote data-quote="aneuman" data-source="post: 255716" data-attributes="member: 43264"><p>Thanks [USER=44680]@rimster[/USER] for taking the time.</p><p></p><p>When you say "<em>i immediately felt better</em>", you meant, an hour after injection, a day, a week, a month? I always heard (since my young days) that when people used testosterone they "immediately" felt better, like superman; perhaps those anecdotes are for people taking supra physiological dosages.</p><p></p><p>On the other hand, I agree with you, coming from 150 ng/dL the change should be noticeable. I'm on the opposite end. I was at 788 ng/dL (hCG mono) but my free test was extremely low (7 ng/dL) with a relatively high SHBG (54 nmol/L). My mood and general well-being was generally improved and I felt pretty good, but sexually, just like you, penile sensitivity, libido, arousal and orgasm are definitely not where I need them to be. </p><p></p><p>6 weeks seems reasonable (although it feels like an eternity). I started with a low dosage (2 x 40mg a week of T.Cyp) so my serum average now may be even lower than what my body was used to before (800-700) but I expect if the free T goes up, I can notice some improvements. </p><p></p><p>My Dr. said that there's no evidence (his words were "<em>there are no studies that say</em>") that free T has anything to do with symptom resolution, that we should look at total T. But I've listened to Dr. Abraham Morgentaler say that in some cases, people have normal or even high total T, with low free T and are symptomatic, and even though most doctors won't prescribe TRT to these patients, he would, and in his experience, that resolves the issues in 80% of the cases.</p><p></p><p>For the last 6 months, my average total T has been 770 ng/dl while my average free T has been 7 ng/dl (0.9%). Both HCG and enclomiphene work extremely well on me in raising total T, but it seems SHBG has a way to track it and nullify it. Only once I had free T of 13.8 ng/dl and it was with a total T of 1183 ng/dL, but soon after SHBG caught up and brought it down to 8 ng/dL even with a total T of 1050 ng/dL. I've tried Boron, Zinc and all the magical herbs on Amazon to no avail.</p><p></p><p> I'd love to hear if [USER=38109]@Cataceous[/USER] or [USER=38590]@readalot[/USER] have something to say about this and if my expectation has any foundation.</p><p></p><p>Thanks a lot for your comments and congrats on your success. BTW, what is your dosage? Have you tried reducing it to see if it helps?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="aneuman, post: 255716, member: 43264"] Thanks [USER=44680]@rimster[/USER] for taking the time. When you say "[I]i immediately felt better[/I]", you meant, an hour after injection, a day, a week, a month? I always heard (since my young days) that when people used testosterone they "immediately" felt better, like superman; perhaps those anecdotes are for people taking supra physiological dosages. On the other hand, I agree with you, coming from 150 ng/dL the change should be noticeable. I'm on the opposite end. I was at 788 ng/dL (hCG mono) but my free test was extremely low (7 ng/dL) with a relatively high SHBG (54 nmol/L). My mood and general well-being was generally improved and I felt pretty good, but sexually, just like you, penile sensitivity, libido, arousal and orgasm are definitely not where I need them to be. 6 weeks seems reasonable (although it feels like an eternity). I started with a low dosage (2 x 40mg a week of T.Cyp) so my serum average now may be even lower than what my body was used to before (800-700) but I expect if the free T goes up, I can notice some improvements. My Dr. said that there's no evidence (his words were "[I]there are no studies that say[/I]") that free T has anything to do with symptom resolution, that we should look at total T. But I've listened to Dr. Abraham Morgentaler say that in some cases, people have normal or even high total T, with low free T and are symptomatic, and even though most doctors won't prescribe TRT to these patients, he would, and in his experience, that resolves the issues in 80% of the cases. For the last 6 months, my average total T has been 770 ng/dl while my average free T has been 7 ng/dl (0.9%). Both HCG and enclomiphene work extremely well on me in raising total T, but it seems SHBG has a way to track it and nullify it. Only once I had free T of 13.8 ng/dl and it was with a total T of 1183 ng/dL, but soon after SHBG caught up and brought it down to 8 ng/dL even with a total T of 1050 ng/dL. I've tried Boron, Zinc and all the magical herbs on Amazon to no avail. I'd love to hear if [USER=38109]@Cataceous[/USER] or [USER=38590]@readalot[/USER] have something to say about this and if my expectation has any foundation. Thanks a lot for your comments and congrats on your success. BTW, what is your dosage? Have you tried reducing it to see if it helps? [/QUOTE]
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