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Clomid for PCT, fertility or low T
My trip with CLOMID and PCT to stop testosterone shots
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<blockquote data-quote="lebo1965" data-source="post: 61278" data-attributes="member: 14012"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 18px">&#8203;</span></strong>To sum it up ,I stopped my last shot of Depo Testosterone on the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] of October 2016 and started HCG shots 5 days after the last shot according to the protocol recommended by Nelson Vergel and which I have been reading in excelmale.com , the HCG last 14 days in which I felt extremely good in all departments . I then started Clomid 25 mg. for 14 days and to switch to 12.5 mg. for another 14 days and after that do a test after 30 days . </p><p>I had the most MISERABLE time of my life while on clomid , it was making me depressed , no energy , 0 libido and was sleeping for maybe 4 hours a night , this lasted for approximately 20-25 days of misery in which i also resorted to CIALIS for ED and a light sleep sedative , started getting on track after an enduring time with what i used to call the "EVIL PILL " . </p><p></p><p>Nelson , told me that I have to hang on as the Clomid needs time to kick in and there were several times I was going to give up , but kept going and continued on the 12.5 mg without stopping ( according to the protocol ) , as I really didn't want to crash or achieve low numbers . I tested my results and they were 475 ng/dl testosterone and decided to stay on Clomid . </p><p></p><p>I kept on the daily 12.5 mg of clomid -in which I started feeling normal and less depressive after several hard enduring months . I also then started taking a testosterone booster along with it . 1 tablet morning , 1 tablet evening and I started feeling also better . </p><p>I decided a week ago to stop the clomid at night , increase the booster and see how I feel . Which I did and the next day was fine , I just upped the booster to 2 in the morning , 2 in the night and taking other vitamins , such as Vitamin D , omega 3 , selenium , ginseng , etc.. </p><p></p><p>Since that day I have given a space of 3 days between each clomid pill of 12.5 mg at night as to maintain my testosterone level . I am sure I can manage fine without it , but wouldn't want to reduce my current level . </p><p>I have not taken the readings yet , but should do this soon and advise you . </p><p></p><p>To summarise the changes that have happened to me since stopping , are as follows : </p><p>1- After a foggy , deep depressive state I was in , I have regained my state of well being . </p><p>2- My libido is back to less than a 100% normal , I would say 85% , but no ED and no Cialis.</p><p>3- I have noticed my waist getting bigger and have collected fat around it , I am training as much as possible . </p><p>4- In the gym , my muscle has decreased . This is evident but still there .My wife thinks I still look the same , but I can tell that my gains don't stay on after cooling down in the gym . In other words ; <strong><em>you can work your ass off and probably lift the same , but don't expect it to show the way you were on testosterone . </em></strong></p><p></p><p>As far as I am concerned ; the doctor who prescribed testosterone duped me into going into it, without properly managing the protocol and with no advice and no monitoring whatsoever, including not giving me the correct dosage in which over 1 year I have been suffering because of this.</p><p> </p><p>I had no hypogonadism and my testosterone numbers were over 500 ng/dl for a 48 year old man under extreme stress at work ! ( I am now 51 years ).</p><p></p><p>Luckily , I saw the excelmale website and researched the forum and ended up speaking with Nelson . Accordingly , his guidance, advice and perseverance ( I was about to stop the protocol several times ) got me through my decision to stop testosterone for a while . </p><p>I will evidently go back , as I get older but at the moment will stick to my own production till then . </p><p></p><p>If you have any comments or questions , please don't hesitate to ask</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lebo1965, post: 61278, member: 14012"] [B][SIZE=5]​[/SIZE][/B]To sum it up ,I stopped my last shot of Depo Testosterone on the 21[SUP]st[/SUP] of October 2016 and started HCG shots 5 days after the last shot according to the protocol recommended by Nelson Vergel and which I have been reading in excelmale.com , the HCG last 14 days in which I felt extremely good in all departments . I then started Clomid 25 mg. for 14 days and to switch to 12.5 mg. for another 14 days and after that do a test after 30 days . I had the most MISERABLE time of my life while on clomid , it was making me depressed , no energy , 0 libido and was sleeping for maybe 4 hours a night , this lasted for approximately 20-25 days of misery in which i also resorted to CIALIS for ED and a light sleep sedative , started getting on track after an enduring time with what i used to call the "EVIL PILL " . Nelson , told me that I have to hang on as the Clomid needs time to kick in and there were several times I was going to give up , but kept going and continued on the 12.5 mg without stopping ( according to the protocol ) , as I really didn't want to crash or achieve low numbers . I tested my results and they were 475 ng/dl testosterone and decided to stay on Clomid . I kept on the daily 12.5 mg of clomid -in which I started feeling normal and less depressive after several hard enduring months . I also then started taking a testosterone booster along with it . 1 tablet morning , 1 tablet evening and I started feeling also better . I decided a week ago to stop the clomid at night , increase the booster and see how I feel . Which I did and the next day was fine , I just upped the booster to 2 in the morning , 2 in the night and taking other vitamins , such as Vitamin D , omega 3 , selenium , ginseng , etc.. Since that day I have given a space of 3 days between each clomid pill of 12.5 mg at night as to maintain my testosterone level . I am sure I can manage fine without it , but wouldn't want to reduce my current level . I have not taken the readings yet , but should do this soon and advise you . To summarise the changes that have happened to me since stopping , are as follows : 1- After a foggy , deep depressive state I was in , I have regained my state of well being . 2- My libido is back to less than a 100% normal , I would say 85% , but no ED and no Cialis. 3- I have noticed my waist getting bigger and have collected fat around it , I am training as much as possible . 4- In the gym , my muscle has decreased . This is evident but still there .My wife thinks I still look the same , but I can tell that my gains don't stay on after cooling down in the gym . In other words ; [B][I]you can work your ass off and probably lift the same , but don't expect it to show the way you were on testosterone . [/I][/B] As far as I am concerned ; the doctor who prescribed testosterone duped me into going into it, without properly managing the protocol and with no advice and no monitoring whatsoever, including not giving me the correct dosage in which over 1 year I have been suffering because of this. I had no hypogonadism and my testosterone numbers were over 500 ng/dl for a 48 year old man under extreme stress at work ! ( I am now 51 years ). Luckily , I saw the excelmale website and researched the forum and ended up speaking with Nelson . Accordingly , his guidance, advice and perseverance ( I was about to stop the protocol several times ) got me through my decision to stop testosterone for a while . I will evidently go back , as I get older but at the moment will stick to my own production till then . If you have any comments or questions , please don't hesitate to ask [/QUOTE]
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