Methylene Blue

No, I stopped a while back for a couple of reasons. I was a bit concerned as to the purity. Also concerned about contraindication possibilities with Selegeline.

There are a lot of well-respected people who have very positive things to say about it, so I don't have any reservations as to its possibilities. It's mainly the sourcing issues. This isnt something you would want to take if it isn't medical grade.
What do u think of this product? This is the one I ordered and am taking

What product were u taking?

 
I too have stopped taking it consistently and only take it if I have a cold, which I almost never do. It's worth stepping back and considering the general guideline that it is best to wait about 5 years after a compound/drug is released before making a judgment on it's risk/reward. I think people sometimes just apply that to "drugs" but it could apply to just about anything. In the case of MB, Chris Masterjohn raised some interesting concerns about whether it is really beneficial for a person who is already healthy, and I have heard of clinicians raising concerns that it decreases bifido bacteria and may negatively impact gut bacteria.

Regarding the wait and see guidelines, VIOXX was the poster child for this and we have seen this in real time too with recent things such as GLP-1 agonists. As Dr. Kendrick noted as an example, if a group of people started smoking, it would take about 5 years for the problems to start to be really apparent, and due to the fat-loss affects of nicotine, it could look beneficial early on. I think AmidwesternDoctor on Substack recommends 7 years (who by way is IMO essential reading...the amount and quality of what he puts out is incredible) but the bottom line is that it takes a while for the totality of an intervention to really become clear, and taking some new compound, especially one that is highly impactful, is not a great idea unless someone is faced with absolutely no alternative, which very few of us are.
 
What do u think of this product? This is the one I ordered and am taking

What product were u taking?

I don't recall the brand I used. It's good to use a tested product, that one looks to be as good as any I have seen.
 
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I cannot get this troches (EU) but many of you (US) could get this double quality tested source of methylene blue.


Most commercially available methylene blue products are overdosing people—not to the point of medical emergency, but enough that you need to start low and titrate slowly.
Dr. Scott Sherr—who’s been studying methylene blue for a decade—is now seeing his work referenced by high‑profile voices like RFK and Joe Rogan. With so much information (and misinformation) circulating, it’s time to go to the source.




1. What​


  • Originally created in the 1870s as a synthetic textile dye—used even in early blue jeans.
  • Early research discovered it killed pathogens without harming humans, earning it the nickname “Magic Bullet.”
  • In 1897, it became the first FDA-approved drug.
  • By WW II, it was used prophylactically to prevent infections in Pacific pilots—leading to famously “blue urine.”
  • 1950s onwards: replaced by antibiotics, but its utility evolved—used as an antipsychotic, lab stain, and mitochondrial/oxygen-carrying enhancer.



2. Debunking the “Blue Brain” Myth​


  • Concerns about methylene blue discoloring organs come from high-dose IV therapies (e.g. for severe sepsis) at levels around 2–3 mg/kg—hundreds of milligrams.
  • At normal low oral doses (4–25 mg total), it does not dye organs or brain—it is metabolized rapidly.
  • The blue urine simply shows the oxidized form being excreted, not tissue deposition.



3. Mechanisms of Action​


  • Redox cycling: Acts as both electron donor (antioxidant) and electron transporter in the mitochondrial electron transport chain (ETC), bypassing dysfunctional complexes.
  • Mitochondrial boost: Enhances ATP production via ETC.
  • Antioxidant effect: Neutralizes reactive oxygen species, protecting cells.
  • Mild MAOI action: Inhibits monoamine oxidase—modestly enhancing mood through neurotransmitter support.
  • Hormetic & adaptive response: Larger doses (≥1 mg/kg) generate mild H₂O₂, triggering NRF2 pathways and supporting endogenous antioxidant systems.



4. Therapeutic Benefits & Applications​


  • Energy & cognitive improvement—often noticeable within days (e.g., joint pain relief, clearer thinking, improved blood pressure).
  • Mood enhancement—via neurotransmitter support and mitochondrial health.
  • Endurance & exercise performance:
    • Improves aerobic capacity (e.g., ultramarathoners reducing hours off their time).
    • Better recovery between anaerobic sets, possibly reducing rest needed.
    • Beneficial during high-altitude or air travel performance due to oxygen support.
  • Jet lag & travel resilience: Protocols with strategic dosing before, during, and post-travel can dramatically reduce jet lag symptoms.
  • Inflammation & PMS support: Reduced oxidative stress during hormonal fluctuations contributes to symptom relief.



5. Dosing Strategy (Start Low, Go Slow)​


  • Initial dose: 4–8 mg/day
  • Titration: Increase every 3–5 days until benefits arise—common optimal range is 8–25 mg/day.
  • Duration: Typically use for 2–12 weeks, then gradually taper as health optimizes.
  • High-dose use (50–250 mg): Reserved for acute stressors, serious infections, or injury—requiring careful tapering afterward.



6. Avoiding Pitfalls: Product Quality Matters​


  • Skip Amazon: High risk of counterfeits
  • Heavy metals: Some products contain lead, cadmium, mercury, arsenic—look for CoA (certificate of analysis) reporting these contaminants.
  • Potency variance: Especially problematic in liquid forms—studies show many fail to match label claims.
  • Preference: Use precision‑dosed, solid formulations (e.g., “troches”) for consistent effects and easy titration.



7. Potential Side Effects & Safety Notes​


  • MAOI effects: Mild neurochemical shifts—starting too high may lead to feeling “off” or brain fog.
  • Heat sensitivity: Because it boosts mitochondrial activity, it can raise body temperature—caution in hot environments and high-dose contexts.
  • Sleep impact: For most, use in morning/early afternoon; however, some report better sleep and “regular” digestion when taken at night.



8. Travel & Jet Lag Protocol​


  1. Before flight: Take a moderate dose ~4 hours pre-departure.
  2. In-flight: Doses every 4–6 hours to offset hypoxia, cabin stress, circadian disruption.
  3. After arrival: Take daily for 3–5 days to support “reset” of mitochondrial and metabolic rhythms.



9. Where to Learn & Find Quality​


  • Transcriptions (2020): First brand offering precision-dosed, doctor-formulated methylene blue products.
  • Features: Solid quality control, CoA-verified purity, potency testing, medical advisory team (4 MDs).
  • Other resources:
    • Blog: transcriptions.com
    • Instagram: @tro_scripts
    • Dr. Scott Sherr: @DrScottSherr
    • His non-profit: Health Optimization Medicine and Practice (HOME)—focused on clinician training for optimizing health care.



Bottom Line​


Methylene blue is a century-old, synthetically derived compound with powerful benefits—from mitochondrial energy and antioxidant support to improved mood, cognitive sharpness, and athletic performance.
Key takeaways:


  1. Use low, precise dosing (4–25 mg, titrated slowly).
  2. Choose high-quality, lab-tested solid forms, not unreliable liquids.
  3. Treat it as a tool, not a standalone treatment—pair with sleep, nutrition, stress management.
  4. Use intermittently for optimization, or higher doses cautiously for acute needs.
 
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What a coincidence - i was reading this thread earlier today. @Guided_by_Voices mentioned Chris Masterjohn a couple of posts above, who i follow and get emails from. And just now, he's sent out a really long email all about methylene blue. I can copy/paste it if anyone's interested, it's long though
 
Just skimmed over what Chris masterjohn said, but seems like he’s not a fan of methylene blue. He says that over time it actually makes ur mitochondria work less efficiently. Which is ironic since it’s promoted as a compound that improves mitochondrial function
 
What was the dose u were taking?
I think it was a 2 oz bottle and I was taking from a half to a full dropper in a full glass of water. And as someone very experienced with various levels of depression, I can tell when something has a particular effect on my mood and the MB put me in a very distinct funk. I wasn't taking any other meds so it was the MB and MB alone that accounted for it and the symptoms ceased when stopped.
 
I think it was a 2 oz bottle and I was taking from a half to a full dropper in a full glass of water. And as someone very experienced with various levels of depression, I can tell when something has a particular effect on my mood and the MB put me in a very distinct funk. I wasn't taking any other meds so it was the MB and MB alone that accounted for it and the symptoms ceased when stopped.
Sounds like ur dose was too high. Definitely the methylene blue tho for sure. Might have been raising ur serotonin levels too much. Ever since SSRI’s became big, everyone thinks the more serotonin the better. Couldn’t be further from the truth. So many negative things occur when u raise serotonin levels too much
 
Sounds like ur dose was too high. Definitely the methylene blue tho for sure. Might have been raising ur serotonin levels too much. Ever since SSRI’s became big, everyone thinks the more serotonin the better. Couldn’t be further from the truth. So many negative things occur when u raise serotonin levels too much

Totally agree with you about serotonin. Years ago, my gp at the time prescribed me an ssri (paroxetine) when i said i was having trouble sleeping due to stress. "You'll feel great too" he told me..... Second worse med i've ever taken (i binned them after a few weeks) - only one worse than that was some years later when a different gp convinced me to try a different ssri, (sertraline) after a major bad event in my life happened. Well it took my mind off the event that's for sure, but only because its effects were do bad i wanted to throw myself off the nearest cliff. And coming off the drug was so bad i had to be prescribed a course of diazepam to get through it. I know serotonin is important, (and that an ssri itself isn't actually serotonin). But i think doctors promoting ssri's as 'happy pills' should be force fed them to see for themselves exactly what the s*** feels like. I read a good theory once about how ssri's, when they do have a positive effect for someone, actually work. It was that they flood the brain with so much serotonin that its receptors eventually become resistant or insensitive to the serotonin, allowing dopamine to be dominant so to speak (something like that). It would explain why things can get worse for the patient when commencing treatment before (if it works for them) getting better. Ssri's and statins - docs just love dishing 'em out for some reason.
 
Totally agree with you about serotonin. Years ago, my gp at the time prescribed me an ssri (paroxetine) when i said i was having trouble sleeping due to stress. "You'll feel great too" he told me..... Second worse med i've ever taken (i binned them after a few weeks) - only one worse than that was some years later when a different gp convinced me to try a different ssri, (sertraline) after a major bad event in my life happened. Well it took my mind off the event that's for sure, but only because its effects were do bad i wanted to throw myself off the nearest cliff. And coming off the drug was so bad i had to be prescribed a course of diazepam to get through it. I know serotonin is important, (and that an ssri itself isn't actually serotonin). But i think doctors promoting ssri's as 'happy pills' should be force fed them to see for themselves exactly what the s*** feels like. I read a good theory once about how ssri's, when they do have a positive effect for someone, actually work. It was that they flood the brain with so much serotonin that its receptors eventually become resistant or insensitive to the serotonin, allowing dopamine to be dominant so to speak (something like that). It would explain why things can get worse for the patient when commencing treatment before (if it works for them) getting better. Ssri's and statins - docs just love dishing 'em out for some reason.
That’s an interesting theory about SSRI’s and dopamine. And it’s funny cuz I was gonna say in my last reply that it’s actually dopamine that people probably want, if they want all the benefits that SSRI’s promise to give. Increasing dopamine will give u a better sense of well being, more energy, more drive, possibly improved sexual function. Basically all the things anyone would want to see improvements in. Increasing serotonin, as far as I know, can inhibit sexual function, and possibly cause a numbing type of mental effect. Which I can see helping people that are very depressed/ suicidal. Feeling emotionally numb, is much better than feeling depressed/ suicidal, I would imagine. When researching what serotonin does, I just don’t see how increasing levels of it would be a good way to treat depression.

I actually tried increasing my serotonin levels when I was in like my 20’s. I bought some precursors, that were supposed to help increase serotonin levels. And I think they did. But I felt horrible. I felt super emotionally numb. Like I wasn’t happy, but I wasn’t sad. I just like didn’t care. It was so weird. I just remember hating it, and stopping the precursors immediately after I started feeling like that. And I’m not saying everyone that increases serotonin levels are gonna feel exactly like I did, but from what I understand about SSRI’s, and increasing serotonin levels, that can be a pretty common occurrence in many people

It is really interesting that so many of these men that end up mass murdering a bunch of people are on SSRI’s. Again, kind of makes sense with the whole emotionally numb thing. It would kind of take an emotionally numb person to be able to do something like that, I would assume.
 
I think it was a 2 oz bottle and I was taking from a half to a full dropper in a full glass of water. And as someone very experienced with various levels of depression, I can tell when something has a particular effect on my mood and the MB put me in a very distinct funk. I wasn't taking any other meds so it was the MB and MB alone that accounted for it and the symptoms ceased when stopped.
4mg starting dose
 
These scientific articles explore the anti-aging potential of Methylene Blue (MB), a traditional drug, for human health, particularly focusing on its effects on skin longevity and its broader implications as an anti-aging drug. Both sources, published on the U.S. government's National Library of Medicine website (PMC), highlight MB's antioxidant properties and its ability to improve mitochondrial function, which is crucial as oxidative stress and mitochondrial dysfunction are significant contributors to the aging process. The research details MB's efficacy in reducing aging signs in skin cells, promoting wound healing, and its potential applications in treating age-related conditions such as neurodegeneration and progeria, a premature aging disease. The articles collectively present MB as a safe and promising agent for various anti-aging strategies due to its multifaceted positive impacts on cellular health and organ function.



Briefing Document: Methylene Blue as an Anti-Aging Agent​

Date: October 26, 2023

Subject: Review of Methylene Blue's Potential as an Anti-Aging Drug, Focusing on Skin and Brain Health

Sources:

  • "Anti-Aging Potentials of Methylene Blue for Human Skin Longevity - PMC" (Xiong et al., 2017)
  • "The Potentials of Methylene Blue as an Anti-Aging Drug - PMC" (Xue et al., 2021)

Executive Summary​

Methylene Blue (MB), a century-old FDA-approved drug, is emerging as a potent anti-aging agent, primarily due to its strong antioxidant properties and unique mitochondrial-targeting capabilities. Research indicates MB's effectiveness in combating oxidative stress, a major contributor to cellular and tissue aging. Studies, particularly in human skin models and fibroblasts, demonstrate MB's ability to stimulate cell proliferation, improve skin hydration and thickness, promote wound healing, and enhance the production of vital extracellular matrix proteins like collagen and elastin. Beyond skin, MB shows promise in addressing age-related neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's diseases, and in enhancing memory, by improving mitochondrial function and reducing oxidative damage in the brain. Its high permeability across biological membranes, including the blood-brain barrier, and low redox potential facilitate its widespread beneficial effects. While clinical trials for neurological applications have yielded mixed results, the overall evidence suggests MB has significant potential for use in anti-aging cosmetics and in the treatment of age-related diseases.

Main Themes and Key Findings​

1. Methylene Blue (MB) as a Potent Antioxidant and Mitochondrial Enhancer​

  • Combating Oxidative Stress: Both sources emphasize oxidative stress as a primary cause of aging. MB is highlighted as a "traditional mitochondrial-targeting antioxidant" with "a potent ROS scavenging efficacy." (Xiong et al., 2017).
  • Superiority to Other Antioxidants: Xiong et al. (2017) directly compare MB to N-Acetyl-L-cysteine (NAC), MitoQ, and MitoTEMPO (mTEM), concluding that "MB was the most effective in reducing mitochondrial ROS and promoting skin cell proliferation." NAC and MitoQ even showed adverse effects in long-term treatments.
  • Mechanism of Action: MB's anti-aging effects are rooted in its ability to improve mitochondrial function. As Xue et al. (2021) explain, MB "can bypass Complex I/III activity in mitochondria and diminish oxidative stress to some degree." It cycles between oxidized (MB) and reduced (leucoMB) forms, facilitating electron transport, increasing ATP synthesis, and crucially, preventing electron leakage that leads to ROS formation. MB also "induces the expression of mitochondrial complexes II & IV." (Xiong et al., 2017).
  • Activation of Nrf2 Pathway: MB upregulates Nuclear Factor Erythroid 2-Related Factor 2 (Nrf2), a key regulator of the antioxidant defense system. This leads to "a significant increase in the mRNA expression of a subset of ARE-containing genes," further reducing cellular ROS. (Xiong et al., 2017).

 

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